Why are you annoyed I didn't do a search before I started this thread?

The OP of that thread is jroth7, a different poster from the OP of this one, justmeetee.

I’m not sure what thread the OP is referring to. In a recent thread of his another poster made a polite suggestion that a previous thread on the same subject might provide useful information. I don’t see anyone expressing annoyance toward the OP.

Colibri, we have to talk. Why the nasty?

Especially in out of nowhere in a silly standard silliness people do with Mods, especially mods they “know” and have had normal back-and-forths with. I don’t believe I’m being egotistical when I ask why I am such a bug up your ass? Have you or other Mods had to warn or noted me so many times or have had to move my threads so many times out the bazillion I’ve OP’ed and the thousands of satisfied consumers of SD of my wonderful posts that have been fruitful and you know, in the spirit of things and received and answered as such–including, a bajillion times, by you–who, I might add, I’ve enjoyably GQ-ed wth, you know, interesting, intelligent, and going with flow, light-footed with and without you mod hat on–and then forget that you will say things like the above. And despite this heartfelt post itself, hope to and anticipate will return after this spat.

Am I considered in the company of the banned/suspensed/publicly-discussed-in-ATMB-to-be-in the running for derailing threads, or other jerkishness like those who, when you see their names, you know is just going to be a jerk? Look at my threads and posts as a totality.

And it sucks that a throwaway personal of yours got turned into more than a throwaway personal because it’s public in ATMB and so different in tone (and by my reading based on a long history). Elsewhere, publcly, I’ve referred to your “more n sorrow than in anger” occasional notes to me, as I tried to put the and most civil face on it. But I read anger by now, and believe misdirected anger, and, hence, in this case, a little obnoxious by now. And please don’t say "this belongs in the Pit, because you can go Mod anywhere, and that would be a brush off.

If you want this to go on publicly, type away. Let others do their analysis of me or my posts. Start a new ATMB on the general point of what I’ve done that makes your posts like this, in the six years I’ve been contributing to GQ, be made often enough that some will, or should, be snarky about being thin-skinned. But please knock it the fuck off.

Or add a smiley smile to the dubious smiley, fer Chrissake. :slight_smile:

I might just as well ask why you were snarky about the fact that the post was not moderated as quickly as you would like. In addition, you acted like you wanted a reward for making an off-topic post in GQ. That’s what annoyed me more than the post itself.

Look, Leo, a lot of your posts are OK, but very often they don’t contribute much, or even constitute hijacks. It’s fine if you want to just shoot the shit about a subject, but we have other forums for that. You don’t need to do it in GQ.

As I’ve told you before I (and other mods) would appreciate it if you would put a little more thought into your posts. Sometimes you just post without thinking. This can cause problems.

I just want a lover like any other
I only want a friend who will stay to the end

Ahhh, drama.

I see where I went wrong. I thought I was in a SOCIAL media forum when in fact I am in a serious technical forum.

Oh damnation - I am such an idiot. I am so sorry, justmetee. I don’t know why I confused you with that other poster just because both your names start with ‘j’. Too many drugs - not enough coffee, I suppose.

But I was wrong, completely wrong, and I am very sorry. I will shut my damn fool mouth, now.

Greetings justmeetee, and a belated welcome to the Straight Dope!

Yes, this is social media (though the message board precedes that term), but I tend to think of this corner of the internet as “Social media with a mission statement.” Our mission is fighting ignorance. So we encourage posters to work on their game a little.

It’s not quite a serious technical forum though: it’s more of a general interest message board. Wise cracks are encouraged, but direct insults against posters are secluded to the BBQ Pit. Attacks on the post itself are proper, though General Questions has greater civility than Great Debates. In all forums it is acceptable to challenge unsubstantiated assertions, though in MPSIMS things are a little kinder and gentler.

Some of our forums are more serious (General Questions, Great Debates), while others are more social (MPSIMS and IMHO). For the serious ones it’s better to do a search for previous discussions of a topic. For the others it’s generally unnecessary (although to discuss breaking news it may be good to check to see if anyone has started a thread already).

Because you might use up all the bits and break the internets. There are only so many bits to go around, so don’t waste them on easily searched questions.

Consider this hypothetical: if all persons **exhaustively **searched for an answer before posting the query what would the forum look like?

There might be a few more threads with links to past threads. Also better questions.

Looking over the first page of GQ at the moment, I would say that at least 95% are questions that would probably not be adequately answered by either a web or a forum search. (Some are about recent events, some are complex and require in-depth information, some are about very obscure topics, some posters are asking for help evaluating information they found by searching other sources, etc.)

And, occasionally, someone will explicitly admit that they COULD get the mere facts elsewhere, but they post in the SDMB’s GQ because they enjoy the particular styles of answers that Dopers tend to provide (on a good day). I think that’s okay sometimes, as long as it’s a question that encourages nuanced (but still factual) answers.

And you mention that in your original note with the dubious why…? “Well you’re a bad boy too?” Because you thought I was saying something bad about you? And you come up with something irrelevant but something annoying about me which is irrelevant except for showing “well so are you you do stupid stuff?”

Talk about thin-skinned!

How on Earth was that snarky about for-real moderating? (Snark is disregarding what the other person does in the humor to make a point about which you disagree.) What kind of asshole would complain that a mod hasn’t removed a thread fast enough for being in the wrong forum? And then following it up with the obvious silliness of continuing to “mock” his target by asking for a prize?

And you forgot in your assumption of me being snarky that I’ve followed ATMB for years, and know that it can take awhile for mds to get in the loop on-less-than urgent threads.

But, all in all, based on my reading of ATMB, I read this as you being justifiably thin skinned about that particular topic, judging from all the times you do get zapped by obnoxious readers about why you/mods didn’t swoop in immediately and make everything better.

But honestly, it was ATMB-style goofiness on the Life of The Mods, and you answered with personally directed snark-in-kind, as you say above, but there was none on my part, and I will stake my life and sacred honor that anyone of us who read that thought I was taking the piss out of you.

What a stupid thing a proud SD member would do to its volunteers.

Am I not to refer to your jackboots? Shall their no more be cakes and ale?

Lenahan, of DBT, writes that in all emotionally charged interactions/arguments at first you should evaluate what is at stake (each a valid one) choosing among the three: to achieve the goal, to establish self respect, to preserve the relationship.

I’ll take a little of #2, but would like to order #3 as the entree.

Leo, I notice myself sometimes posting something that doesn’t really add to the discussion. It happens when I’m reading a thread, and something will pop into my head, and I’ll post it. Often in these situations it will sort of be an in-joke that only a few Dopers would be expected to get.

Colibri took this opportunity to help you see that you do this, too, sometimes. He didn’t do it tactfully or gently, that’s true – so your defensive feelings are understandable (I’d feel the same way) – but it seems this is something Colibri has been thinking about telling you for a while, and saw an appropriate moment to do it. Let’s both try to learn from this!

Didn’t we used to have a rule-of-thumb here that threads in GQ were allowed to drift after the OQ (Original Question) has been answered, or after 10-or-so posts in any case?

Colibri has modded me several times for making light-hearted or semi-facetious (well okay, maybe fully facetious) posts in GQ threads that were well after the 10-or-so posts boundary.

Any post will still bump it up. Right? I remember sometime ago I ask a serious question looking for an objective answer and the thread took off in some juvenile game playing direction and then down about twelve responses it got kicked up and someone came along with a correct answer to my question.

and that’s one reason message boards are dying. they condense down to a relative handful of long-timers who snarl and snap at newcomers who might ask or say something with “we talked about that six years ago! use the search, you dumbass!” if all you want people to do is search then why have a fucking *discussion *board in the first place?