As an owner of a 15" i7/16gb/256gb ssd macbook pro retina, I felt the need to register just to correct all of you.
First off, 2880x1800** is **the actual and native resolution, and you can run the display AT that resolution, not a generated/virtual edition of it, with DPI hacks and crap like that. It runs at that resolution in both Mac OS and Windows OS, and it is glorious. Running at normal resolutions like 1080 and 1200p, and even the “native - best for retina” resolution which is something in the neighborhood of 1600x900, it just makes things crystal clear and sharp, like stupidly sharp and almost fluid like, but I run it at full 2880x1800 all the time, everything is still sharp, but very small, which is exactly how I like it. I need the screen real estate for the work I do. All I can is, after using my retina macbook pro for a few hours, and then going and using the older macbook pro 15" i have laying around here, and even my IPS HP probook, it is like night and day. The quality on the retina is astounding, there is nothing like it.
I am very curious to see what mfg’s like MSI and ASUS have coming up. Even Sony is on board with making higher res laptops, well into the 4k realm. I just don’t see them for sale all over the place just yet. The few that are, are all over $2k which is a bummer.
As for gaming, unless your specific desire is to run games at 2880x1800 and up, then yes, you will need serious power to run games at that resolution. Otherwise, just because the display is 4k or 1800p capable, doesn’t mean you have to run games at that resolution? Just run them at 1080p or 1200p, they will still look insanely nice
You resurrected a zombie, Crankturner. In the (almost) two years since this thread was posted, several hi-DPI laptops have been released.
For what it’s worth, Windows HiDPI support still sucks and many applications don’t support it properly and are still hard to use (Adobe Suite, Dropbox, etc.)
I have a Yoga 2 Pro with a 3200 x 1800 screen and I wish I didn’t; the higher resolution is way more of a headache than it’s worth.
My question is is if any of these displays can reach their full potential without top-end video cards/chips on par with what you can get with desktops today.
Aren’t current retina displays under 4K in resolution?
If that’s the case then, ha! no you don’t need $10,000 in order to run games at those resolutions.
The latest COD: Advanced Warfare, for examples, runs at 60 FPS at full 4K resolution with a single GTX 980, which is a $500, currently top dog GPU out there. You can build a high end system around that GPU for about $1,000 or so.
Ignoring gaming, sure. Even gaming is possible with trimmed down graphics settings and a tolerance for 30 FPS. There are also laptops out there running with multiple GPU’s in SLi too, I bet you some of those could also run games at native res at even better graphics settings/performance points.
As I mentioned above, quad SLI is not needed to game at these resolutions in most games, unless you are looking to max out games at 60+ FPS. And even then, some games can achieve that on a single GPU.
I don’t think 40’ish FPS at 4K resolution AND with 2x MSAA is what I’d call “unacceptable” performance.
If you ran pure post-processing AA instead of MSAA on an engine that isn’t going to perform well with it (like the BF engine), I bet you that 980 would get 60 FPS.
And again, I don’t believe Retina displays ARE 4 K displays.
My post was more of an aside, not really addressing the point of laptops and retina displays. I just wanted to correct the ridiculous notion that you need a $10,000 PC to play games at QHD or even ultraHD resolutions.
Even if you’re of the opinion that you need 60 FPS or near it for the experience to be “Great” or what have you, an SLI system should suffice i most cases, and even with two GTX 980’s and a high end i7, you’re not going to get much beyond $1,600 or so. Definitely NOT $10,000.
QHD/UHD gaming isn’t 5 to 10 years away, it’s possible TODAY. Hell it was possible many years ago! I’ve been personally gaming on my 1440p monitor for the past 3 years.
In about 3 years time it should be achievable at that $600 sweet spot or so (not counting the cost of the screen!).
I did indeed, honestly I didn’t even notice how old the thread was lol, my mistake
I understand the scaling that both Windows and Mac does, and I don’t like it. I’d rather just run it at the full native resolution. In Mac it requires a program to “hack” the stupid OS into running it at 1800p, in Windows it automatically runs at full res and it’s actually nicer looking in Win7 than in Mac os, but that’s just my opinion. On a 15.6" screen like on this MBPr, that resolution is about as high as my eyes can handle. I can’t imagine 3840x2160 on 15.4" like on the Lenovo Y50, but it would be interesting to see nonetheless!
Agreed, there are 1-2-ish year old graphics cards that will run 4k games at 40-60fps, like the GTX780 and the Radeon 7970/7990, most definitely in SLI/X-fire. Couple that with a decent quad core i7 and 8-12GB DDR3, you should have no issues running games at 4K with decent FPS, and you’d spend well under $1,500 at most if you built it yourself.