Why can't Voyager return home? (Star Trek)

Wait, Ferengi were the Roswell ship? I thought there was a Voyager ep. where a time ship from he 29th century crashes in Earth past and is the Roswell ship.

As it turns out, it was salvaged by a electronics company and the technology found there started the microprosesor revolution. Voyager was commishened by the Time Cops to go back and stop the CEO in the 1990’s from using s small, time shuttle he found. They care nothing that the stolen tech drastically changed the world, but only that the ship was getting used :confused: . It’s also where the doc got his mobile transmitter.

That was the 60s, Bouv, not the 40s.

And I thought that the “general Star Fleet policy of non-interference” was the Prime Directive.

The Prime Directive only applies to non-warp cultures. Once a culture achieves warp speed, the Federation decides they are worthy of First Contact and drops by to say “wuddup.”

However, the general policy is not to interfere with non-federation cultures if they don’t want you to. Unless they decide to start some shizit, at which point it’s OK to go all 22nd century on their asses.

Nah, as Aesiron says, that’s only for pre-Warp cultures. For Warp cultures, there’s still, like, a Directive not to interfere, but it’s not the Prime Directive.

It’s more worrisome when they go all 23rd century on their asses, though.

When Captain Archer decided to shoot his phase cannons and those missile-thingies at you, he was honest enough to say it was because he didn’t like you.

When Captain Kirk decided to shoot his phasers and photon torpedoes at you, though, he told you it was because your culture resembled Communism and he was doing you a favor.

Thanks, Mr. Blue Sky. It’s been a while since I watched it and I got so mad at it that I think the details flew straight out of my head.

Though I don’t know why they didn’t just have everyone speaking english. It wouldn’t have been any less plausible than a translator that can understand a new language instantly, would it?

Yes, I can just see an Alta-Vista translation starting an intergalactic war.

Human: “Welcome aboard our Federation vessel!” :slight_smile:

Green-Skinned Alien: “What’d you say about my mother???” :mad:

The translators actually have to learn the language as well. (though I dont’ get why we hear Klingon occasionally. Shouldn’t that be translated too?) This is most evident in Enterprise. In the other series, they’re usually talking to races they’ve met before, so the language is already in the translators database.

On a side note, even with the translator, understanding the language can still be problamatic. There’s an episode of ST: TNG where they meet a race that uses imagery, and it takes a while for Picard to learn to communicate with them, even though the language is being translated for him. Cant’ remember the name of the episode, though.

Darmok

Wait a sec, what the fuck is the point of requiring 10 characters? The answer to the question only required 6. Can’t this be fixed, or is t broken just like everything else in the “upgrade”.

OK, yes, I do remember sometimes them needing to train the translator. But I swear sometimes they didn’t.

(I do have some nitpicks eg. why is ‘in darmok, when the walls fell’ harder to translate than “'aq ba’gh’thudthud”? But I’m not enough of a geek to care any more… )

Remember…

In ST:TUD, the Uhura carbon unit had to respond in actual spoken Klingon, otherwise the guys sitting there in Kling* would know that a UT was being used, thus endangering the mission (I shouldn’t have come). “These aren’t the humans you’re looking for. Move along.”

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Except that the Ocampa (Kes’ race), at the time Voyager met them, weren’t warp-capable (they may have been at one time in the past, but I don’t think that matters). Destroying the Array was most certainly interfering with them, especially when you consider that it was basically keeping them alive. And “We were stranded and had no choice” is absolutely not an excuse to violate the Prime Directive, especially when the only way to get yourself unstranded is to obey the friggin’ Prime Directive!

Yeah, the writing flaw that is Janeway shows up in that pilot episode. (You know, The 37s would count as a pilot episode, in a different way…)

She bipolarly alternates between rigid application of the Prime Directive and throwing it away due to some moral pontificating that she invents. One of the most annoying aspects of the series, let me tell ya.

Well, technically, it was being translated, verbatim, since that actually was what they were saying. There was just no way for the UT to translate the meaning of what they were saying. In reality, they were probably saying something more like Huj aracki an kupla de.

Getting back to the OP, how can the Delta Quadrant be 70,000 light years from home in the Alpha Quadrant, supposedly a journey of many years, but in Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier, Kirk and the Enterprise get to the center of the galaxy in a matter of days? I picture the galaxy as a disk, and if Earth is the outer edge, the center of the galaxy is at most only half the distance to any other point.

Star Trek what? The what what?

I don’t know what you’re talking about here, but the center of the galaxy is about 27,000 light-years from Earth. Any fanfic that has them going to the center of the galaxy in a few days is clearly in error.

There is no edge to the galaxy per se, but you could be 70,000 light-years from Earth and still be in the galaxy, depending on how you count it, although it would pretty sparsely populated.

The more pressing quesiton, SMTWTFS, is what would god need with a starship?

I’ve always assumed that they have a “Do Not Translate” button that they can hit. For when you’re about to tell that newbie weapons officer to get his useless ass in gear and arm the fucking phasers :smiley: