why did anybody with a brain want an 8-track tape player ?

I’m looking at some old photos from 1978 ish, and there it is–an 8-track tape player.*
Why did anybody ever think that 8-tracks were a good idea?

If you wanted music on tape, cassettes had been available for several years before 8-tracks.
Cassettes were better in every way: they were smaller, more convenient, and, for og’s sake, you could rewind/fast forward them.
So who thought up the idea of 8-tracks, with a continuous loop that you had no control over? And why did anybody buy it?

  • (the 8T was not mine, of course–I was a true audiophile . My music was on vinyl, and I had a turntable with anti-skate compensation that tracked at 1.4 grams… .)

Although it was a little before my time, based on the fact that they didn’t exist for very long I don’t think anyone with a brain did buy them. There’s always the “people without a brain” market that you can’t underestimate.

Mass marketing? I wasn’t aware of cassette tapes before 8-tracks. New cars had 8-track players.

There were no commercially available high fidelity cassette players once upon a time. I first remember decent car cassette players coming into play in the late 70s. Before that if you wanted to buy something that actually sounded good then 8 track was the way to go. The tape speed was faster and produced much better results, until tape technology improved.

It was due to the black lights and fumes from the puke green deep shag carpet compromising peoples mental faculties…

Are you sure you’re rembering correctly. I was 10 in 1978 and remember my Mom having a box full of 8 tracks from the 60s and 70s. I don’t remember casettes really taking off until walkmen showed up.

ETA: Now that I’m thinking about it, I remember getting a portable 8track player one Xmas. Oh and what do you mean by continuous loop. The “Track” in 8 tracks referred to the songs being on different tracks pressing a button changed the song/track.

I’m blaming it on the hallucinogenic inducing effects of lava lamps.

I always associate them with cigarettes for some reason. They must have been easier to operate with a butt goin’.

I think you’re also understating the continuous loop feature. This was decades before auto-reverse became common on cassette players. If you were working in your shop or driving a car and wanted to play your music and didn’t mind listening to the same album a couple times in a row, hands-free, an 8-track was the way to go.

Yep, cassettes were readily adopted when they came out, but that was well after 8 tracks. Believe me, we weren’t crazy about them either but it was the best available at the time. Two gripes; you couldn’t record and they got eaten… a lot.

I came across a box of 30 or so just last week as I was cleaning out the garage. While I did put them in the trash, I placed them on top in case anyone wandered by in the hopes they could wax nostalgic too.

I think they were primarily for cars, with a secondary home market. Easier to operate for cars, plus there were no easily available car cassette players at the time.

Aw Contraire mon brothah. I remember in about 1970 recording onto 8-track. I was not yet in Kindergarten and Dad was teaching me the cutest little song about three Irishmen digging in a ditch.

Couldn’t record? I made dozens and dozens of my own 8 tracks. :confused:

Really? Y’all had much nicer decks than us then. I never ever had one that could record. You could buy blanks? I remember what a big deal it was with cassettes in that we finally could make our own tapes.

I also remember always having a matchbook or piece of paper handy with 8 tracks. You often had to wedge it in the top of bottom just to get it to play correctly.

I could be wrong, but I thought I read about 8-track recorders. I know Wikipedia mentions them, but it doesn’t go into detail. If they did exist, however, my family didn’t have one.

See, now there’s a shame. I would have grabbed them from you. I used to work next to a thrift store and for some time in the mid-'90s, you could still find quite a few tapes. I think I have about forty or fifty of them stacked away in an old Sony stereo cabinet; I’ll occasionally play one for friends, but yeah, each time I pop a tape in I know it might be on the last leg of its journey.

I could be wrong, but…
I think 8 track pre-recorded music albums came first, as more portable form of music than record albums. It was a way you could play your music in the car stereo or take to your friends house. I don’t think pre-recorded cassette albums were released until the late 70’s or early 80’s, although blank cassettes and recorders were certainly available before that. My hazy childhood recollections of people replacing their 8 track collections with cassettes seem to support this. I know that by the time I started collecting music in the early 80’s albums were no longer released on 8 track, at least not in my area. Everything was on cassette and record albums.

Oh yeah, a book of matches jammed under one side to keep the pressure on certain tapes was a must: almost synonymous with the quarter taped to the tone arm on your record player.

Darn it, on preview, I see that almost everything that I had typed out has been covered.
Wikipedia agrees that 8-Tracks came before pre-recorded cassettes, but not by much. I don’t know what their relative popularity was; maybe 8-Tracks were just more popular until the late '70s.

I wonder if it wasn’t a competetive marketing thing like Beta/VHS or DVD/Bluray or Mac/PC?

Clearly 8-track didn’t suck too bad at the time because it was a marketable medium. Perhaps the fatter & faster tape provided better quality than the skinny cassette tape and so 8-track’s other shortcomings (Let’s not forget the 2-3 second pause in the middle of a song while the player switched tracks!) were worth working around. Eventually cassette prevailed in a big way when they were able to at least approach sound quality?

Having lived through this time period, and having owned an 8-track, I can tell you flat out that it was quality that drove the market. 8 tracks came first, and cassettes in the early days were suitable only for voice recording. It wasn’t until the Walkman era that cassettes really became a viable music medium.
eta: Hell, I owned a 4 track player! With the hole in the bottom of the tape cartridge where the drive wheel went. Match that!