Why did democrats lose so many presidential votes in 2024 in safe democratic states

You did so well until the last word, when you revealed that the answer was actually “sexism.”

At the SD, most believe the only reason anyone wouldn’t like Hillary is because they are sexist.

Well, of course not. Not you. How on earth could anyone imagine such a thing?

I mean, except for the part where you believe the same things as they do. And consume the same media. And use the same slurs. And hold the same values. And espouse the same talking points. Oh, and vote for their candidates.

But other than that? Sure, you’re not a Trumpite or MAGAite. No way.

Yes, it’s really not fair of the SD for jumping to a conclusion that’s clear in the language of the post.

The Bulward folks have conducted several focus groups with these very groups
Their conclusion was overwhelmingly:
1 - Inflation
2 - Immigration
3 - Democratic nominee selection process.

Paraphrasing myself from this thread

“Republican” = Republican voter
“Libertarian” = Republican voter
“Independent” = Republican voter
“Moderate” = Republican voter
“Centrist” = Republican voter ← this is you!
“Undecided” = Republican voter
“I’m just not that into politics” = Republican voter

“Bernie or Bust” = Republican voter

Election rigging has been mentioned, and knowing the Trumpists and what happened in 2020 that’s a good possibility, but I’d suggest that the most likely explanation is a major rampup in the voter suppression that’s been going on for years, but was likely stronger than ever after 2020:

In a winner-take-all electoral college system, deciding not to waste personnel and money on winning sure-thing California by 5 million instead of 3 million votes is one of the few smart decisions that the otherwise bumbling Harris campaign made, and it stands in marked contrast to both Biden and especially Obama who spent a truly puzzling amount of resources there.

Because no one will deprecate an Electoral College landslide by noting that there was no commensurate popular vote landslide.

Because both those who voted for DFT and those who failed to vote AGAINST him have fundamentally and ontologically flawed mental patterns where they allowed themselves to be fooled into believing a candidate (where all the crap he’s said and done is a matter of public record and thus NOBODY has any excuse to not know about it all) who by this point should have a 0% approval rating if not a nice lifetime lease in a penitentiary somewhere (if not a mental institution or at least a nursing home) was somehow a legitimate choice to become the chief executive of this country.

ALL caviling about the Dems failed to do or say this or that (even when they did, really getting sick and tired of all the gaslighting here, esp. by those who are allegedly on my side), or any of a hundred different halfassed theories, is utterly beside the point. Put in a voting cohort that doesn’t have these flaws and he doesn’t get a single solitary vote.

if any of this were true, they would never vote for Trump. Never.
Especially the rule of law stuff. (and the wealthy stuff) (and the affordable price stuff)

Sorry, but “Shrillary” is pure sexism, no matter the gender of the person uttering it. It’s reasonable to dislike her for her policies, but not for her tone of voice.

Where did I say that?

I agree. Basically, leftist economics tends to be popular. Leftist social views tend to be unpopular.

Unfortunately, Democrats rejected the former while embracing the latter.

This is 100% false. The Inflation Reduction Act was “leftist economics”, as was support for the ACA, support for raising the minimum wage, etc.

The minimum wage remains the same level it was in 2008. The ACA is so watered-down that it isn’t very…“A.” Housing and groceries and insurance costs are destroying households. In fact, companies like UnitedHealthcare were able to get away with charging more and more while denying more and more valid claims. Income inequality has exploded; guys like Bezos and Musk who were worth only a few billion dollars a decade ago are now $200 billion folks.

None of that has anything to do with your statement that Democrats rejected lefty economics. The Inflation Reduction Act was government spending to encourage green energy and other lefty priorities. It’s OK to be wrong – you don’t need to deflect with talk about income inequality, etc.

Trump defunded outreach efforts for the ACA and Biden funded them, leading to a jump in covered people. Whether the ACA is perfect or not is unrelated to whether Biden did what he could to bolster it, another lefty priority.

Anyway, I’m not going to discuss this further, because you came back with a grab bag of complaints that had nothing to do with your claim or my response. I’m not interested in going down that path. It would make me happy, though, if you admitted that, for example, the IRA was an example of the Biden administration not rejecting lefty economics.

Yes, this country would be a socialist paradise if it wasn’t for those damn Democrats.

Don’t Leave DL.

You’re not wrong; most people on this site have very similar views, but that’s all the more reason a differing perspective is important. Most of America lives in silos when it comes to their friends and news sources, yet they purport to know what the other side believes without every talking or LISTENING to them.

Stick around, stand your ground. I think you make some very good points.