Why did NASA stop faking moon landings?

What’s the moon hoax crowd’s excuse?

With the rising cost of CGI, etc, it may have become more economical to actually go to the moon.

This is from Bart Sibrel’s FAQs on his website promoting his DVDs and theory about the conspiracy:

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So, he seems to be saying that once NASA knew the Russians could prove that the landings were faked, they quit faking the landings. Whether his claims about the Soviets’ ability to track deep spacecraft are true or not, I don’t know.

That was a good point. CGI back in the 60’s and 70’s was very primitive and that is why the moon was depicted as a rather grey, barren, and desolate landscape. The computers just didn’t have the horsepower for “objects” like plants and crazy little animals. This failure of production led the public to believe that there was nothing to see there and hence no reason to go back. Advances in computing power have made it possible to create a very interesting “moon” but it is a hard sell to explain to the public how rivers, giant plants and animals (because of the lower gravity) appeared so quickly between now and then. Until someone can come up with such a story, we are grounded so to speak. The good news is that the Russians and Chinese have announced plans to do their own moon CGI productions in a few years.

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Bart Sibrel’s FAQs quote: “Even if the Russians did suspect the landings were not authentic, the act of calling us liars of this magnitude at the height of the Cold War could have instigated a war, and perhaps they thought it better not to chance that.

Calling the moon landing fake could have instigated a war. That’s rich.

Guess they were sure that our ICBMs were real. Also, in Russia, you don’t make moon landing…Moon land on you.

Oh, Bart, Bart, Bart.

Before the end of 1972, when the Americans landed the last Apollo on the moon, the Soviets flew the following missions:

Luna 16 - September 20, 1970 at Mare Fecunditatis, Latitude 0.68 S, Longitude 56.30 E - Lunar sample return to Earth.

Luna 17 - November 17, 1970 at Mare Imbrium, Latitude 38.28 N, Longitude 325.00 E - Carried Lunokhod 1 lunar rover vehicle.

Luna 20 - February 21, 1972 at Mare Fecunditatis, Latitude 3.57 N, Longitude 56.50 E - Lunar sample return to Earth.

So the Soviets landed three rockets on the moon and brought two of them back but couldn’t track deep spacecraft? How’d they do this? Braille?

And is there anybody else in the world who believes that if the Soviets had proof of our faking a landing and went public with it, we would have gone to war. To war? Nuclear war? Think about it.

There is something truly sad about moon hoaxers.

Don’t you see…the Soviet unmanned moon landings were fake, too.

I blame OJ.

Orange Juice? They drank Tang on the space missions. Why would somebody go to all the trouble and expense of developing Tang if it wasn’t going to be used by real astronauts going to the moon? I had some myself as a kid although I haven’t seen any around lately. Actually, that is a good point. Maybe we haven’t gone back or at least faked going back because Tang isn’t available anymore. I rest my case.

So the Cold War made the Soviet Union reluctant to say negative things about the west???

(Sheesh. You’d think that even a Moon Landing Hoax believer would be reluctant to post something this lame.)

Because it was used by the folks who did all the fakery. That’s the beauty of it.

And (not many people know this) they did the fakery for the Soviets as well. (They were really the only game in town if you needed a top-quality hoax.) Naturally, one of the conditions imposed on the Soviets was that they not disclose the US hoax.

It’s no so hard to imagine. Think of the Cold War as a 40-year time of mutual PMS between the USA and the USSR. Now, everybody knows, the last thing you want to do when there’s someone in the house PMSing is start up some new sh!t. Especially less than 10 years after that “You put your golf clubs (nuclear weapons) in my car (Cuba)!” argument.

I think the Sun landings were fake too. It’s tricky, because you can only land at night…

Not if you land on the dark side of the sun…

Maybe OJ should cite Dan White and use a Tang Defense. He was hyped up on sugar from drinking his favorite powdered drink mix after hearing that OJ was a killer.

I heard the original attempted moon landings were so poorly timed, the probe arrived during a new moon, and thus had nowhere to land.

Then, as the moon came back into existence, it crushed the probe. This is what finally caused the poor folks at NASA to throw up their hands and say “Fuck this, let’s just shoot the thing on an abandoned backlot somewhere, and throw in some actors in funny suits, to boot”.

Just something I heard somewhere…

People! I thought this place was about fighting ignorance.

You have to wait until the winter solstice.

But then wouldn’t that reveal that the Earth isn’t round?

Well, duh…that’s why they framed O.J. Simpson.

Stranger

This deserves an extra-big :smiley: