Context matters, because it affects how what is being said will be understood. But why should intent? The text and context is all we can see. We can’t read people’s minds.
I’ve used this example before (a real life one, BTW): what if you hear someone on Xbox Live calling someone a nigger? They swear up and down that they don’t think of “nigger” as meaning anything but “shitty person” (the same argument my late great uncle used). Assuming they are telling the truth, do they get a pass, because they didn’t intend it to be racist?
I’d actually say a huge chunk of racist speech is not intended to be racist, possibly even a majority. The only thing good intent affords you is that you get a chance to apologize and a chance for people to accept it.
I’m not interpreting it the same way. Asking why Joe Smith was banned is a PM a mod thing. We’ve seen a handful of threads posted in ATMB lately re: disappearing threads/banned posters and the like. A mod typically closes those for the same reason, PM a mod.
When someone is suspended or banned, and the mod posts a thread in ATMB with links to several warnings, those warnings are fair ATMB game, but discussion of the banned member is not.
I don’t see that there has been any change in the rule.
There hasn’t. Discussing the merits of a banned or suspended poster will not be allowed. There has already been a mod note about it in this thread. Discussions about how the rules were enforced is allowed.
Since nobody has mentioned it yet, I’ll just point out that while “cuckservative” was getting really annoying, it seems a bit unfair to issue a warning for using it and then announce that it is now a warnable insult. Plus, does that extend to equivalent terms like DINO and RINO?
That said, I am totally on board (on balance) with the action that was taken and hope that no further action is necessary.
Not exactly. It means guy who is so nerdy, effeminate, and wimpy that his wife is going around sleeping with other guys. Though there’s sometimes the implication that he’s actually gay.
It’s also a word you pick up hanging around MRA/PUA sites, and is their way of putting down any guy who doesn’t agree with them. They are alpha males, and everyone else is really a cuck.
And I apologize if I’ve not gotten the connotation exactly right. The only time I’m there is someone else links to something stupid they said.
Wait. Is the term “cuck” forbidden because it has a sexual connotation even though people don’t know exactly what it means? Did the moderators figure out what it means before banning it?
“Cuckold” is an old word for the husband of an adulterous wife. I remember learning it from Shakespeare in high school. Cuckolding is a fetish lifestyle that can sometimes involve bisexual or gay behavior, but in my experience spending too much time on Reddit, the recent resurgence of the shortened form “cuck” isn’t intended to be sexual at all, at least not any more than calling someone emasculated or effeminate.
That said, I can’t hear it any other way. It’s like all the things I called “gay” in the '90s because I didn’t know any better, I was just using the word to mean lame without understanding the history or repercussions. I think people who have glommed on to “cuck” are using it the same way, it’s a generic masculine insult similar to calling someone a little bitch.
It is a term used widely by white nationalists that has been picked up by far right wingers on 4chan and other places to describe republicans that aren’t conservative enough. You could try to argue that some clever troll remembered his Shakespeare and pulled the word cuckold out of thin air but in reality there is a sub-genre of porn called cuck or cuckold that consists of a white man being humiliated but stimulated by his wife being nailed by large black men while he is forced to watch or film. Feel free to try and defend it’s use but I don’t see any of us changing our minds.
Well, thanks for your permission. I’m less interested in the particular term, as the process by which moderators decide to ban certain speech. Based on your post and Jonathan Chance’s, it seems like you have a sort of gauzy concept that it means RINO combined with a sense that it has racial and sexual connotations, but you aren’t entirely clear as to whether and how those racial or sexual connotations are part of the meaning.
Is it permissible to call a politician an effeminate RINO? Or, by implication, is that also banned speech?