Why did the craft brewing revolution in the US (and elsewhere) take so long to happen?

It’s easy to see the technological component in so much of what’s going on in our world, but one can’t excuse the late arrival of craft brewing (i.e., the arrival of good beer in the US) based on a need to wait for technology. As soon as it was legal in the US to brew full-alcohol beer again (Prohibition repealed on December 5, 1933), brewers were free to make the good stuff.

For the most part, they didn’t choose to do so. Here are some milestones:

• Sierra Nevada brews its first batch of Pale Ale in November 1980. Cite. That is the first cite I have for a genuinely great beer being brewed in the US.

• The Boston Beer Company (Sam Adams) was founded in 1984. Cite. Although considered a pretty mediocre beer at best in today’s brewing world, this was many Americans taste of “real beer.” I started drinking in the early 90s, and it was the first “craft beer” I had until 1998.

• Goose Island got its start in Chicago 1988, but its big brewery opened in 1995. Cite. For Midwesterners like myself, this was one of the first craft beers after Sam Adams to become available in liquor stores and supermarkets. My first IPA, in 1998, was a Goose. Today, of course, beer snobs totally dismiss Goose Island, but I tried their IPA again recently, and it’s decent.

So let’s go back in time to 1998. I had come back from a job in Japan to attend grad school. By way of aside, craft brewing in Japan got its start in 1994: a law requiring brewing companies to produce 2,000,000 liters a year was reduced to 60,000. Cite (Japanese). I visited my first Japanese brewpub in 2000. It’s not that big a thing over there. I put this detail in here because I’d like you to feel free to talk about the history of good beer in your own country.

So, it’s 1998, and you go into a liquor store in the Chicago area. It’s still pretty bleak! You have Sam Adams, Goose Island, Pete’s Wicked Ale (RIP), and maybe a few other things that I don’t remember because I still wasn’t into it all that much. Oh, I just remembered one: Anchor Steam Beer and Anchor Porter. Very good stuff (I’m not sure when Anchor’s beer started to be good or if it always was good, so feel free to fill in that bit of history). In New York (where I spent a bunch of my summer in 1999 during my internship), options were not radically different IIRC. The beer of choice to buy from the liquor store there was Brooklyn Lager, a good beer. A decent bar typically had a craft brew or two on tap.

Feel free to correct or add to the history above, but the point is that the real explosion in craft beer has happened since 2000, in the blink of an eye. Returning to my original question: Why? Why didn’t people in 1950 get into delicious IPAs and Belgians and porters. I think the answer is really quite simple: tastes in food and drink at the time were abysmal.

If you grew up in the 70s and 80s (or earlier), there’s one thing you’re bound to remember: bad TV commercials for really, really bad beer. These commercials were big! The penetrated popular culture. I remember sitting on the gym bleachers in grade school during an assembly, and the two sides spontaneously broke out into a chant of “Tastes great!” vs. “Less filling!” What was that for, Miller Lite? Ugh.

But wait, the notion of a “premium” beer did exist! Things like Lowenbrau (hahaha) and Michelob (hahahahahahaha!). If you were drinking that stuff instead of Schlitz, you were drinking fancy, lemme tell ya! Now here’s the thing about those beers and anything else that tried to be premium at the time: to lovers of real beer today, they would just taste like water. It’s not as though companies at the time were trying to do real beer and failing; they just weren’t trying at all.

You know how bad beer was in the 70s? The (good) megahit movie Smokey and the Bandit was all about smuggling Coors beer east of the Mississippi River. People used to bring Coors back from trips and whatnot and sell it–cuz it was just so rare and so good! And when Coors finally began to be distributed nationwide sometime in the 80s, it was a huge deal. All for beer that would not be considered any different from any other thin, nothing beer today.

Beer in the US was so bad that people with any kind of taste would drink imports, but the imports were also little more than carbonated water. For the longest time, Heineken was considered some kind of special thing!

And if you grew up in the 70s and 80s, you know that food culture just kind of sucked, and unless your mom was Chinese or something, you were probably eating terrible food a lot of the time. Let’s face it: food culture just absolutely sucked, and the advertising that supported it was dumb as hell. Let’s not even talk about 80s wine cooler ads, m’kay?

I’m sure people a lot more knowledgeable than I will say much more interesting things, so I’ll let you get to it. But for young people reading now, we truly are blessed to have the craft brew culture that has popped up. Even in a mid-size city like Indianapolis (where I live), it’s an embarrassment of riches in terms of local brewing; plus, we have restaurants with magnificent taps from all over the country. I’m grateful.

This whole thing is subjective. What makes you think your taste preference is objectively “better” than anyone else’s?

I don’t think it’s completely subjective. Individual tastes vary, but people who enjoy a food product will generally agree on what is crap beer/wine/cheese, etc…For instance, tasteless is tasteless, regardless of your peculiar preferences.

Regarding the OP, the explanation is obviously a lack of “beer culture”. I can relate to what he writes, because the situation and timeline in France was pretty much identical. I would just need to substitute the name of a crappy French brand for the name of a crappy American brand (and even then, Heineken being considered a premium brand works in both cases).

At least, here, we had neighbours with a beer culture (Germany, Belgium, Ireland…), so the few people who enjoyed beer could find a decent one at a beer bar if they lived in a large city.

What our French friend said above. Plus, sophistication is sophistication. Saying Budweiser is a great beer in 1975 in the context of the market then is different than saying it’s great in 2016 in the context of the market now. In 1975, virtually all of the beers on the market in the US were light adjunct (i.e., made with grains that were not barley) pilsners like Bud. If you were to say, “Bud is great,” in 1975, 99.9% of people would not find that to be an odd statement, as you would just be indicating your taste preference among beers that all tasted the same.

Today, no one could say Bud is a great beer with a straight face unless it’s some old guy who doesn’t know what the market is. The context is totally different. No one, and I mean no one who enjoys craft beer to any degree can sincerely call Bud a “great beer.” People who don’t like craft beer who like Bud understand that they are enjoying it for what it is, and that it’s not a sophisticated choice of beverage. Kinda like the whole PBR thing: it’s basic anti-taste ironically displayed.

There is objective within the subjective and certainly subjective within the objective. Would you say tastes have not grown more sophisticated and choices more numerous since 1975?

It is a somewhat analagous story here in the UK - which is strange as we are the Temple of Ale. Despite this, pubs were dominated by bland, mass produced, low quality bitters for years and years. Real ale was a marginal beverage with a massive image problem - drunk by bearded tits in Arran jumpers. You could find it, though, so it was never anywhere near as bad as the US beer landscape used to be.

It’s a source of some embarrassment here that the craft brewing revolution took off in the US before the UK. Like we needed to be reminded of our own heritage. But the beer’s the winner so nothing to get hung up about.

Surely a fine business opportunity - bringing real ale to the French. No doubt this is already in motion, with beer missionaries travelling over from England to spread enlightenment.

Thanks for your observations on France!

Yet… for example, there was a lack of “sushi culture” in the US in 1975. Not a bad sushi culture, just total non-existence outside of the biggest cities. I never even saw sushi until I first went to Japan in 1992, though it was starting to be a joke in the 1980s (e.g., snooty rich girl in The Breakfast Club has sushi as her lunch in 1985).

The US had a beer culture in 1975–it was just a terrible beer culture. There was, sadly, a ton of advertising money poured into promoting bad beer, and people were even passionate about the shitty brand they drank.

Yes, ESB and English-style IPA have now become popular styles in the craft brewing scene here, so it just keeps getting more and more detailed.

Haha, could you explain that to this 'Murican? :slight_smile:

By the way, regarding the goodness of 1975-style beer, now that each craft brewer has a few extreme ales available, they are starting to explore the potential of more subtle styles, such as lagers, including light pilsners. Even adjunct pilsners. The thing is, they do so creatively and with great attention to detail, so even if you like Bud and Miller, you can get a much better beer these days in that category. So many choices…

Interesting topic. The same timeline pretty much applies in Ontario, and presumably the rest of Canada.

The LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario) finally opened up some shelf space for independent craft beers about a year ago, and it’s been a fantastic smorgasbord experience for me.

I’m old enough to remember when every bar had 3 or 4 of the same shitty watery beers on tap and that was it. And even then we thought Canadian beer was superior to American beer, which it probably was but but really nothing of any consequence as far as I was concerned.

Real beer is just absolutely wonderful.

IAN Busy Scissors and cannot speak for him/her, nor AI even British, but I think I got this one:

“Bearded tits in Aran jumpers” means derpy/foolish guys with beards (particularly, self-consciously “rugged” and “authentic” poseurs) wearing heavy woollen sweaters of traditional “rugged” and “authentic” design, what we in the US often call “Irish fishermen sweaters”.

Interesting! Are those mostly local Canadian craft brews, or do you get some US stuff as well? I can’t say that I’ve seen a Canadian craft brew yet, though your regular beer and whisky is regularly available here, of course.

Molson and Moosehead seemed to have that kind of Heineken-level “premium” marketing attached to them. I can’t imagine them being worse than the watery US majors.

Yes. Outside of US craft beer, I’ve mostly had Japanese beer, which though also in the simple pilsner category for the most part is without question better than US beer. Like, even drinkable. Since I started drinking in Japan and not the US, I never really had much regular US beer. I had a pitcher of Bud I remember, and it was liking drinking soda pop of some sort–not actually terrible in the absolute sense in terms of flavor, but also not like real beer at all. Most of the major Japanese brands at least taste somewhat like beer.

Arran, not Aran :slight_smile: Pretty places both, but a few handspans apart.

Because beers were dominated by the big breweries. Certainly smaller breweries existed long before 1980 – Rheingold and Ballentine, for instance in NYC – but they were usually mimicking the national brands. And why not? That was what was selling. As time went on, the smaller breweries either went out of business or were merged into the big ones. Wikipedia says there were only 42 breweries in the US in 1978.

Craft brews stated popping up in 1976. And in 1978, Congress changed the law to allow people to brew beer at home. Brewers could learn their craft, experiment and find new combinations and be experienced enough to think about doing things on a commercial scale. So craft brewers started catching on by word of mouth. Also, people started trying new styles of beer and liking it. This created a market for craft brews and, once it reached a critical mass, craft beers became widespread.

I think a couple of big events in the early to mid 20th century are to blame: prohibition and WWII. Prohibition destroyed America’s local beers. Prior to prohibition, there were many small regional breweries, but after it, mostly a few breweries were standing.

Secondly, after WWII, America’s unprecedented prosperity ushered in a really weird period for cuisine. Look at the cookbooks from the 50s and 60s, it’s all jello mold salads, white bread and meatloaf. Basically prohibition and the period after WWII ruined America’s palate, baby boomers thought that Stroh’s was good beer and that baking a cake from a mix was “from scratch.” We’re only now recovering from those twin shocks of processed goop to re-discover good food.

Here is a brief article that doesn’t get into too much detail, but deregulation of the beer industry in 1979 greatly opened up the craft brew business in the US. I’m not very knowledgeable about the actual regulations that prevented craft beers, but I think that there was a minimum production required in order to operate a brewing operation.

As for beer in midwest of the US in the 1980s, there were a ton of small breweries in Wisconsin that were available in the Chicago area. They were of varying qualities, but some were very good. Augsburg beer was one of my favorites, and Leinenkugel was usually a good choice.

A minor factor, but signifigant one IMHO is that around that time a lot of people quit smoking or never started. Suddenly a lot of taste buds were awake and “Bud” wasn’t going to do it for them anymore.

That may be a factor, but I’ll share this in counterpoint. I was still smoking when I started appreciating beer with substance and flavor, and even to my smoke-infused taste buds there was a world of difference between typical mass-produced beers and craft beers.

Before this anyone who tried to brew beer even for home use had to comply with all of the same regulations as giant beer companies and all of the liquor taxation laws. All of the illegal liquor producers would produce moonshine instead of beer since the penalties were the same but beer had so much less alcohol.

Americans had sophisticated palates before 1920? :dubious:

Anyone who’s sampled European (and Japanese) beers will tell you there’s a world of difference between them and generic American slop. It’s far from subjective.

The OP’s experiences and take on the recent history in the US is pretty close to mine.

Compared to Bud and Miller, Michelob and Lowenbrau were a big step up in taste. Also, Canadian imports like Moosehead and Molson Golden, and some other European brews (Kronenbourg, Carlsberg Elephant come to mind) became the direction of choice when a few extra $$ could be scrounged up - since taste wasn’t the only priority, if you could spend the same amount but get the same buzz on less, it made sense - the Elephant checks in at 7.2%.

Not that I loved it on my first try, but Guinness Stout soon became another option for my HS buddies and me. Schmidt’s of Philly and PBR were most likely the domestic preferences, back then - too bad we couldn’t get a hold of any Yuengling.

Funny, but the last few times I’ve tried Moosehead, which was one of my favorites, it was a far cry from what I remember in the '80s.