Ok, let’s stay on topic. WHY do you think the FBI “lied” (your words, not mine) about Carter Page? What, in your view, was the motivation?
You keep bouncing around between two different subjects, Page being an agent of Russia and the email that was falsified, which talked about him being a source for the CIA.
I’m happy to talk about him being an agent of Russia, but I don’t want to have to come back to the CIA topic again. Are we good on the CIA subject? If so, then I am quite happy to post a selection of quotes from the document that establish Page as a foreign agent. If not, then let’s make sure that we’re all good before changing topics.
Are we also good on the concept that one can be both a contact of the CIA and Russia and that those are not mutually exclusive?
I don’t know what their motivation was but I do know they lied and the IG Report confirms that.
Also there’s this, footnote 461 from the IG Report:
The Crossfire Hurricane operation opened on July 31, 2016 but McCabe seems to have gotten information from Christopher Steele prior to the date. Which seems to imply the investigation was triggered by the Steele Dossier.
Please provide a cite for what you know a CIA Operational Contact to be.
SO WHAT? It does not change anything that happened in 2016. The facts are still the same. You can’t even make a guess as to what the motivation was? Is that because you truly do not know (in which case there is no motive for malfeasance that you can imagine), or you just do not want to admit what this is all about for you. You should know that it is very clear, even if you don’t admit it.
You’re saying the FBI didn’t lie about Carter Page?
This could be one of the unintentionally funniest posts I’ve ever read on this board.
:rolleyes:
I’ll tell you what, when you answer the questions posed to you, then I’ll answer yours. Ball is in your court. Just know that all of these pages of work you’ve put in on this means nothing and hasn’t changed a single thing, nor will it. What happened in 2016 is what happened. You cannot erase that with this magic bullet you think you’ve found. You are essentially a tinfoil-hatter at this point. You can’t even articulate what you think the grand motive behind this was. What is a conspiracy theory without a motive? Lunacy. That’s what.
Why are you resorting to name calling?
Why are you refusing to answer pertinent questions posed to you?
Also saying you are like a tinfoil-hatter is not name calling, it’s a simile, not an insult. Just letting you know how you are coming across because I don’t think you are aware.
Why are you avoiding answering the question posed?
What question? What do you want me to answer?
No, he’s not. The words you responded to are “so what?” That’s not a denial; that’s a desperate plea for you to get to the point.
Do you take the position that any particular law enforcement investigation is invalid, and the findings erroneous, if it can be shown that some aspect of the investigation is incorrect?
I mean, by virtue of not even hypothesizing a reason, you are essentially saying that it doesn’t matter why any error was made - malicious, lazy, incompetent - it doesn’t matter. An error - any error - can be mentioned over and over and it is, to you, self evident that nothing that was uncovered even needs to be considered.
Nobody, including you, has disputed what he’s written about Operational Contacts. Thus, there is no need to cite anything. If you think it means something else, nobody is stopping you from making a claim.
What did the FBI lie about and, more importantly, what was their motive for doing so?
Just speculate. I want to hear your opinion on the question that you posed in the title of the thread.
Footnote page 358:
How come it’s “name-calling” when it’s directed at a Trump fan but acceptable when Trump falsely accuses people by the handful? One standard for everybody.
YES
The FBI, as an organization, did not lie about Carter Page.
One person, within the organization, * arguably * lied but that seems to have been out of laziness not malevolence and his lie was, likely, inconsequential. It’s supposition but, likely, the judge would have reapproved the warrant if he had known about the CIA connection. In fact, the larger concern within the FBI was whether they needed to care about the connection since they don’t want to arrest someone who is a CIA agent nor waste time snooping on someone who would possibly just tell you everything that he knows and that you could trust was telling the truth and would include any information on criminal activities if there was any.