This is nonsense, teams of people worked on the FISA application not one person. There were multiple errors/omissions on all of the applications. The Judge would not have re-approved the application if the exculpatory information was included. Carter Page is an American Citizen not an agent of a foreign power nor was he working for one. You’re spreading disinformation. What are you doing that?
Hmmmmm… these two statements don’t agree with each other. And it’s just a dead-even toss-up as to which poster has made the better case for their point of view using available facts and logic. :rolleyes:
You do not need to be a foreign citizen in order to be an agent of a foreign power. That is the “2” in the reference number for the US code definition that the FBI gave (50 U.S. Code § 1801(b)(2)(E).
Since you seem to have lost interest in the CIA question, here are your quotes for the matter of Page being an agent of a foreign power:
(Page numbers given as the quotee.)
Now, there’s no real need to break this quote here, but I feel like it merits a moment of reflection on that second word there, in the above. What pre-existing means is, “before Carter Page had any connection what-so-ever to the Donald Trump campaign” he was already under investigation by the FBI as a national security risk.
I would put it to you that the FBI can neither foretell the future nor can they travel back in time. With that being my stance, I put it to you that they were investigating Carter Page for being an agent of Russia not out of political animosity towards Donald Trump but, rather, because Carter Page had done some shit.
If you continue to read on, the report then makes it clear that Page denied various allegations in the Steele Report and that these denials were not included in the FISA application:
Now, I grant that you probably read that as a smoking gun of, “The FBI lied about Carter Page!” And I can’t stop you from reading that passage through beer goggles.
But let me point out that little thing called the Miranda Warning.
The point of Miranda is to tell criminals that if they tell the police something, the police can and will use that information against them. The job of the police is not to tell the story in the way that the perp would wish that they told it, it’s in the way that is most revealing of the perp’s criminal intentions.
Imagine, for example, that someone tells you, while looking at a 10 year old girl in a bikini, “Aw man, the things I’d do to that one.” And then, a moment later says, “Pff, as if. Like I’d do that sort of thing!” When someone says something revealing of their inner mind, the plastering over of that which follows isn’t particularly convincing. It’s fair to assume that we were just granted an inner glimpse of the reality and that, then, the person tried to bluff their way out of it.
A denial of a crime is not a particularly meaningful statement to a police officer. All crooks claim their innocence. Likewise, all non-crooks claim their innocence - because they’re actually innocent. As a metric, it doesn’t add anything. But, while denials are not useful, the innocent person would never talk in a lascivious way about a 10 year old girl nor would they talk about having an open checkbook with Russian agents.
That the FBI did not include Page’s denials is standard operating procedure for all police, period, for all investigations. That is not a conspiratorial activity against Carter Page, that’s what we teach them to do and then pay them to do. Left-wing bleeding heartists hate that aspect of policing but, nevertheless, it is how the job is done and unless you are one of them lefties, you should be all in for letting the police trap crooks with their own admissions of criminal acts.
Not specifically related to Page’s status as a foreign agent, but I feel like these further sections of the document should be pointed out:
A “SIM” is a case that is politically sensitive. For example, investigating a Presidential candidate would be a SIM. If Page was going to be investigated as a non-SIM, just before joining Trump, that is an indication that there was no sense by those who wanted to investigate him that there were any political nor special ramifications worth note in investigating his Russian connections.
James Baker now works at the R Street Institute, a Republican think tank.
It’s pretty clear that Carter Page was working with the CIA and wasn’t an agent of a foreign power. This is why the FBI altered an email and used that doctored evidence for the warrant. They knew this information all along.
Today you had Comey on Fox News finally admitting that Horowitz was right.
Carter Page was working with the CIA and forwarding information from those Russian Contacts to them. The FBI used that information to bolster the FISA warrant knowing full well that Carter Page was working with the CIA.
This is the first of seven “significant inaccuracies and omisisons” in the IG Report. If you want to argue this isn’t true, provide a cite contradicting it.
You’ve now had multiple opportunities to dispute the definition, which you requested, of an Operational Contact and have chosen not to do so. That’s because you can’t.
Which is to say, “They asked me questions. I answered their questions.”
There is no “actively forwarding information to them”. Your brain invented that, just like (if you watched the previous video) everyone in that audience invented a gun that was never in the story.
You have confused yourself. I’m sorry, but it’s just not what actually happened and even a site like RealClearPolitics - exactly the sort of place to drum up information in Page’s favor - does not report what you are saying because that would open them up to libel suits.
