Why do '70s rock stars get a pass on statutory rape?

It struck me that she wasn’t particularly pretty and also that she didn’t look a day over her actual age even when trying to look older.

Not many people would call being arrested and going on trial as “getting a pass”. Simpson and Blake also both went on to lose massive civil suits. Pistorious’ lesser charge was appealed and he lost, so was ultimately convicted on the South African equivalent of murder.

The bigger point is that all three are and will always be viewed as murderers, names that are anathema. That’s as far from getting a pass in the OP’s sense as a quasar is from us.

Hey, he got a presidential pardon from Jimmy Carter. Isn’t that sorta like a “free pass”? :smiley:

Guys. Billy Jean, of the gold jewelry and French perfume, is not the 14-year-old. The young girl is there now; Billy Jean was in the past. He’s paying, now, for the happy hours spent in her arms (and the killing she induced him to do). Thinkin’ and drinkin’ are all he has today. See?

I know that. The point is that Billy Jean is the girl he took up to his room. My reference was to the song itself, not the lyrics CarnalK quoted.

The rest is just a Michael Jackson joke.

I have tried, but can’t really seem to understand this attitude. It seems that most people agree that a line has to be drawn somewhere, and that it should be drawn conservatively in order to protect children.

Yet folks seem to get very upset at the idea that they shouldn’t sexually engage with some small fraction of the population for the small fraction of the time they are both sexually desirable and underage. As if this is a terribly wrenching demand to make of an adult.

I don’t know how many people of your preferred gender you* see in a given day. Chances are, most of them are sexually unavailable to you for various reasons, including age, marital status, and it’s time to shampoo the cat. It’s important to be able to accept this likelihood and deal with it, or else your life will be chock full of disappointment and possibly prison.

*Generic “you,” not octopus.

Oh, it seemed (and I think CarnalK understood) you were supporting the idea that there was “inappropriate behavior” with the 14-year-old. Which might be supposed, but not on the basis of that verse.

Have you forgotten the situation with Jerry Lee Lewis who married his 13 year old third cousin in 1957–and whose career was substantially damaged?

It wasn’t that long ago when a guy didn’t need to ask a girl to provide ID to prove she was 18. She could pass herself off as an adult and the guy/rock star wasn’t treated like perv for believing her.

They did prosecute in a few cases like Peter Yarrow. He was pardoned (years later) by Jimmy Carter.

These days athletes and rock stars check ID. They have friends in their posse (close by) to provide eyewitness that the girl was reasonably sober and consented. Thats the only way to protect themselves from lawsuits and accusations. Any celebrity that doesn’t is a fool.

You’re correct that I misunderstood. Didn’t really go over it that intently. I did and do still suppose inappropriate behavior though. Lol.

You say all that like it’s a bad thing.

I said it was more casual, not that anything at all would be acceptable. (Some sources say that Myra was actually his first cousin once removed.) She was of legal age according to Mississippi law at the time (over 12 for women), but the marriage was illegal on the grounds of bigamy because Lewis was still technically married to a previous wife.

In any case, the scandal didn’t prevent Lewis from making a comeback as a country star about 10 years later.

Sex is too litigious these days. Been that way for the last couple decades.

Attitudes and laws needed to change from the old days. Some of the stuff the old Rock Stars did was unacceptable even then. They got away with it because nobody looked too closely. But the scale swung way too far in the opposite direction. I’m expecting notaries public to set up shop in hotel lobbies very soon. Couples can get those sex contracts signed before going up to their room.

Carnal K has already quoted the lines about a 14 year old girl from Mexicali Blues by the Dead.

From Stray Cat Blues, by the Rolling Stones"

I don’t think she had been invited up just for a drink.

From noted pedo, Paul McCartney:

And they were all, what, 21 or 22 at the time? Not exactly pedophilia when all is said and done, or even statutory rape in some areas.

Joan Jett’s “I Love Rock & Roll” has a reference to a 17-year-old BOY in whom she’s interested standing by the jukebox. :smiley:

Another board had a thread about “Dumbest Songs Ever” and one of the nominated tunes was “I Want To Hold Your Hand” because it was being performed by men in their early 20s, one of them married with a small child.

She’s only thirteen in the (phenomenal) live version, on Get Yer Ya-Yas Out!.

And, she knows how to nasty.

Age of consent in Britain is 16 and has been since 1885.

Forget the guy, I would have been the one in trouble with my mom for breaking the Do Not Wander Off With Strange Men rule. I just don’t think it’s very confusing to a teenager what might happen when a guy wants to see you in private.