Why do all politicians wear suits and ties?

No. Female ones do not. And you win the award for the most sexist and outdated thread title.

Exactly. Anyone in a suit and/or tie, I expect to lie.
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However, it should be noted that although formalism increased with the century, mid-Victorians tended a lot to letting people wear what they preferred ( from the canon of permitted apparel: wearing a kaftan to the office, prolly no — although the 18th century would have just shrugged it’s shoulders and thought about something more important ), and moustaches, beards waistcoats etc. etc. were up to the wearer. Later, young men became more uniform, each with a little moustache and a black & tan terrier by 1900.

Study British military group photographs, and you can see a lot of lackadaisical lounging about, some on the floor, and clothes chosen at random fancy during, say, the Indian Mutiny. By 1919 they are generally sitting upright and all a piece. And glaring a bit.

You win the award for biggest overreaction.

For the sake of comparison, let’s just consider upper management of a relatively conservative business, such as banking or manufacturing. Aside for minor fashion changes such as lapel width, pants leg width, or tie width, this “uniform” has remained remarkably stable for 50 to 70 years or more. Watching Mad Men, set 50 years ago, Don Draper wouldn’t look too out of place in a modern office (with the exception of his fedora). In contrast, suits worn in Boardwalk Empire, set 35 years before Mad Men, look much more different. But even so, aside from changes to shirt collars and neckwear, the basic business suit isn’t terribly different all the way back to 1850-1860.

I recognize that there is greater informality in other contexts today, and even in upper management of less conservative fields like technology someone like Steve Jobs can affect a turtleneck. Many office environments are less dressy than they used to be, as are other environments. (Sixty years ago lots of men used to go the the baseball game in a suit, tie, and hat.) However, it seems to me that at the upper levels business dress has changed very little in more than half a century.

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Mea culpa.

I think all Canadian Prime Ministers should be clothed by Don Cherrys’ tailor.

Men wear ties to show that they can continue to function while part of their oxygen supply is cut off.

Then explain car salesmen to me. :stuck_out_tongue:

Our present governor wears jeans almost all the time, even when wearing a coat and tie. The thing I hated most about the transition from military to private sector was having to wear one of those hateful things. I don’t even like a T-shirt with a snug collar, let alone intentionally cinching up something that restricts blood flow, so I almost always wore the tie loose, and the collar button undone, which I’m sure annoyed some bosses.

Back to politicians. The suit is bad enough, but when combined with a fucking bow tie, it just makes me start looking for the floppy shoes and the clown car.

Because if they wore red suspenders, they’d be firemen.

Around here they mostly wear khakis and polos.

I dislike ‘normal’ neckties well enough, but bow ties just seem like little cries for help.

Isn’t it the president of Ecuador who refuses to put on a tie?

You been showering with either or both?

And was required when one dressed for dinner. Even Tom Sawyer was forced to wear one at times.

Rafael Correa sometimes wears a tie, and sometimes doesn’t.

Correa is another leftist. However, I don’t think he’s as consistent about not wearing a tie as Mujica or Morales.

Nicholas Maduro of Venezuela, although a leftist, seems to wear a tie more often than not.

The photos have gotten out?

You do understand that this says more about you than it does about people wearing suits? Men throughout much of the business world wear suits as it is the uniform of their profession, nothing more or less.

I quote myself: The thing is, I am weird.

There are some regional variations, like Hawaiians in Hawaiian shirts, bolo ties in the west, Stetson hats in Texas, and seersucker suits in the south. In some areas with a strong Latin/Caribbean influence (South Florida?) a guayabera is “formal.”