I was just trying to determine whether you were able to be logically consistent in your argument against AA.
As orcenio noted, if you feel that people are racist because black people are getting ‘special’ treatment from AA, then you should feel that people would be misogynists, because women are getting special treatment when they benefit from AA as well. That would be logically consistent, but you don’t seem to care about the other groups.
Instead you rail against black people when other groups receive more benefits from it than they do. You are of course free to make any argument you want, but one must question why you ignore the larger groups who benefit more from AA and instead focus on the usual punching bags.
It was fought because of slavery, of which in America racism was a central feature.
Nazism as said was; as was slavery and segregation. Plenty of ideologies good and bad are eliminated at least in part by force.
Conservatives don’t; many blacks are conservative. However, white conservatives tend to because after all that is a traditional value, the very thing they say they stand for. And because anything else would contradict the “just world hypothesis” they like to believe in; they don’t want to admit that blacks can be at a disadvantaged position for any other reason than their own “inferiority”, because admitting that would mean that wealth and success and power are not directly correlated with virtue.
IIRC he’s a libertarian, and libertarianism has always had a racist streak to it.
When have I said a single word against black people? You need to step your reading comprehension game up, bud. No. Matter of fact, since you say I’m “railing” against black people, produce evidence of it or log off.
I said AA causes racism because in my experience with racists they cite AA as a reason for their racism. I can’t recall similar arguments I’ve had with misogynists so I didn’t make the claim that AA causes misogyny. It’s possible that it does. If so, it would be yet another reason why AA is a failed policy.
It has nothing to do with logical consistency. If I say rainfall causes fescue to grow higher because I’ve witnessed it, does it follow that I’m logically inconsistent because I failed to make a similar claim about bamboo? Of course not. Stop trying to bore me to death with your bullshit.
You said AA and welfare causes 21st century racism. You assume all people on welfare are minorities. You and anyone who uses the excuse that they are racist because of welfare and AA are wrong. So very very wrong. If not all people on welfare and who benefit from AA are minorities, then rationalizing racism by referring to AA and welfare is a false conclusion. It’s totally on topic. I even quoted the post in which you mentioned that, so I am not sure why you are confused.
I meant Medicaid (which they call Tenncare in Tennessee). My mistake.
I’ve never been disenfranchised because of AA, but if I had been its possible I would have resented it, right? Maybe it would cause me to blame Black Americans for my misfortune? Is that a crazy idea?
Btw if I misspelled anything it’s because of autocorrect.
Most of your posts in this forum, when you try to make AA about black people and only black people. And when you defend racists.
Libertarianism is authoritarianism; it’s about handing power over to people who are richer or have the most personally loyal thugs. It’s about removing power from the government - which the public has some influence over - and handing that power to people and organizations the public has no control over. It’s basically neofeudalism.
And racist authoritarians make libertarians no less racist anyway.
It wasn’t off topic; you have been trying to pretend AA is about black people, and therefore are implying that April R is black.
Hah; they are a nearly spent, dying force; they support my position not yours.
I made no such assumption. You’re wrong. Racists make that assumption. I know that it’s not true, but most racists do not. Its fun to point out that more whites recieve foodstamps than blacks, you should try it. I can understand why you are confused. It’s called nuance, it’s frowned upon in race related topics around here.
Maybe the crazy idea is when a white guy says he didn’t get a job or in a school because of AA. First of all there is no way to prove that, and second of all it eliminates all responsibility for the white guy who maybe needs to focus on other reasons why he didn’t get the job or in the college, like grades, experience, qualifications, etc. AA requires school and work places to attempt to make their demographics more representative of the population as a whole, not give unqualified candidates an unfair advantage. That is a huge misconception of how AA works.
from my original source I quoted:
Huh? You said it yourself. You said AA and Welfare cause racism. If the majority of people on Welfare are white how does that make any sense? Why even bring it up? If it isn’t true, then why are you against Welfare and AA?
I didn’t defend racists at all. I said that most of them are rational beings. All I did was make a suggestion that I thought would combat racism more effectively than AA.
Ok the public has no control over corporations. I’m not getting into this nonsense right now.
True. But racist libertarians lack the coercive power of the state while racist authoritarians can do much greater harm. Do you agree?
Do I hear an echo? Seriously though. God forbid someone starts a thread on planets and I only talk about Neptune while leaving out Jupiter.
Key parts of Nazi ideology have persisted to this day in one form or another.
No; libertarians run corporations, which are mini-dictatorships restrained only by the same state libertarians want to weaken. You are demonstrating one of the major flaws of libertarianism; the irrational conviction that the only coercive power that counts is that of the government.
And? It’s been relegated to a side show, in large part because of the massive use of force.
Seeing as how I grew up in Northern Idaho near Coeur d’Alene in the 60’s and 70’s, I’d say I had more than a passing acquaintance with racists. “Savage”, “Ape-like”, “inhuman” and various other crudities were brought up all the time, but I don’t recall ever hearing the words “Affirmative Action” mentioned. “Welfare” was mentioned occasionally…but only because a good percentage of them were on it.