320 million people in the US. 10,074 alcohol related driving fatalities in 2013.
They probably care for a number of reasons: American culture is pretty influential through movies, music and TV, so it’s not unreasonable to ask what exactly are they consuming (kind of like white Ameican fear of the negative impacts of hip hop on their kids); on a human level concern for US gun violence is not that different from Americans expressing concern for female genital mutilation in sub-Saharan Africa, it doesn’t affect us directly, but it’s upsetting; and finally, it’s nice to look at a less advanced culture and feel superior, we’re always having threads here that are essentially “look what those dumb assed third worlders are up to now,” America’s gun culture is like that for the rest of the first world.
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String bean you should know better.
They are nosy, bored rat bastids.
Except Canadians, who have a legitimate fear that we will annex Alberta and all the remaining Canadian NHL hockey teams.
No, there is no fear about Alberta. Take it, please. In fact, if you can, pick the whole thing up, drop it in the Gulf of Mexico and bolt it to Texas, and everyone will be happier. We’ll take Massachusetts, Maine, and Vermont and call it even. I’d rather you didn’t take our hockey teams but if you must, take the Toronto Maple Leafs, and tell them I said not to let the door hit their asses on the way out.
If I’m honest I don’t care: if Americans want guns, then let them have guns - it’s none of my business.
If the argument for guns was something along the lines of: “the American people in general like guns, they think they are cool, they’re deeply ingrained in American culture, they like the feeling of personal security they give, they think in the ‘black swan’ event of a rogue government with belligerent intentions to the general populace they’re better off with guns and, despite all the problems guns bring, America has the right to have an armed populace, if that is the wishes of its people”, then I would probably think I can’t argue with that.
However it is difficult not to stick your oar in when you here some of jaw-droppingly stupid lies that quite a few (often otherwise intelligent) Americans tell themselves such as there being no connection between America’s hugely disproportionate and mostly gun-related murder rate and extremely lax gun laws or that the mass shootings that are fairly routine on a national level couldn’t be relegated to the rarities with better gun control.
It’s a bit like creationism I suppose. Nobody disputes the right of people to believe the Earth was created in 7 days, but it’s hard not to say anything when it is presented as a rational, logical position.
It does. Various areas of the US entertainment industry have or do celebrate gun violence - from ‘make my day’ through Tarantino to rap culture. And boy does the US entertainment industry like to export its culture.
It infects aspiration for some (youth culture). It also infects the mainstream by regularly seeing, in a society that is some ways comparable, utter stupidity being normalised.
Yeah, they export it to a reluctant world at, um, gun point so to speak. Right? Damn US entertainment industry making folks other than corrupted Americans watch their damn gun violence culture! If only other countries had entertainment industries that could put out good, wholesome entertainment that people REALLY want…
What do you care what we care about ?
I dunno. our murder rate in 2013 was 4.5/100,000 or about 14,000 murders annually.
If there are 88,000 alcohol related deaths there are bout 6 times as many alcohol related deaths so it seems pretty close.
Do I count?
I’m a white Australian and I visited a rental gun range in Waikiki last time I was in Hawaii.
Americans do seem to have a strange fascination with big black cock (at least based on the porn sites I generally look at…er, for scientific study purposes only, of course :o), yes…
Oh, you meant the other BBC!!
A lot of the attitude of foreigners (being one myself) towards guns in the US is similar to the paranoia foreigners have about Dangerous Animals That Will Kill You! in Australia. Yes, they are out there, but in 99.99% of our life we wont be bothered about them, and really do not have to think about them. The actual danger is far overblown by dramatic news reports (Another Tourist Eaten By A Crocodile!).
The difference is that we can’t do much about the dangerous animals (other than ‘Nuke the Whole Country from Space’ a la Starship Troopers). But the gun danger in the US is entirely man-made, and can be resolved - or at least attempted.
We just don’t agree with your justifications for not even trying. But, hey! Your country, your rules. And it hasn’t stopped most sensible people from visiting the country or recognising that the rest of the place is pretty damn nice.
With that Wallaby, I’ll just leave this right here.
In my personal experience, non-Americans care about our guns laws because they want to shoot my guns.
All of them. Germans, Frenchmen, a South African - every one I meet wants me to take them shooting. I usually do, time permitting.
Wait - maybe not all of them. One of the possibly illegal Mexicans I hired to repair my fence some years ago had his own gun.
Well ChickenLegs, I’m sure that if you went to Tokyo you’d want to try out their sushi. I mean you could get the same food at home but, after years of hearing talk coming out of Japan, you want them to belly up and see what they got-to-give.
You’ll have fun, but this still won’t stop you from remarking on their crazy killer-Fugu eating addiction.
Heh. I can can sushi in both America and Japan. Ain’t freedom great?