In this thread, William V. says that there is a group of fans who believe that in the movie Groundhog Day Ned Ryerson was also stuck in Groundhog Day, but he doesn’t elaborate when asked. I therefore put the question to everybody. Why do they think that?
No, that can’t be true. Only Phil is aware of the days repeating. Ned Ryerson reenacts each day just like the first, so he’s like everyone else.
Yes, but he’s an insurance salesman, so you’d expect him to act that way, wouldn’t you?
Hmm, The Ned Ryerson Conundrum gives the only clue I can find although the author doesn’t believe it at all.
I can’t believe that never occurred to me (the way Ned’s meeting with Phil is echoed in Phil’s conning Nancy). I watch that movie every February 2.
I’ve always wondered if the bartender was also in the Groundhog Day Zone. He seems to be aware of what Phil was trying to pull on Rita, learning her favorite drink and all.
For some reason, it’s on channel 9 every night at 20:30 where I live.
I wasn’t familiar with that theory, but I sure do like it.
It makes a hell of a lot more sense than The Shining/Native American Genocide thing. Seriously. It makes a hell of a lot more sense.
That’s an interesting article, but the author’s “Learned Behavior Theory” (wherein Phil learns to seduce Nancy by using Ned’s technique in “reminding” Phil they are from the same high school) doesn’t really fly. The simplest explanation for why Phil doesn’t recognize Ned is that Phil is an egomaniac that probably wouldn’t remember someone like Ned anyway.
Another thing about this that doesn’t seem right is that if Ned was in the timeloop with Phil, he would have veered from his schpiel, as Phil did when trying to get what he wanted. But the only time anyone ever changed what they said to Phil was in reaction to something Phil said or did. When Ned realized he wasn’t getting the reaction from Phil that he wanted, he would have done something different the next “day”. So that theory doesn’t make sense.
I hope that second paragraph made sense.
Unless Ned was uber-aware of what was happening, and realized that Phil would have caught on had he been changing his spiel, since no other people in town were changing their behavior day to day.
Ned realizes that in Phil’s reality, he has to make good with people, so he just waits him out as Phil fills in the puzzle pieces.
Perhaps, but regarding this movie, I believe in Ocham’s Razor.
Following the logic above, almost anyone in the movie could be uber-aware of what was happening and kept to their same behavior.