Unlikely, since he’s dead.
So he did get out.
Details, details…
Cite ?
Due largely to the so called (and failed) “War on Drugs”. However, there are no good figures from North Korea and China, Russia and a few others. But still our rate is quite high, certainly in the top ten.
Also our massive levels of racism and war against the poor. Also, profit.
What strikes me about the three men named in the OP (Richard Reid, Ted Kaczynski, Robert Hanssen) is that they did not seem to have a record of serious in-person violence (two persons setting or trying to set bombs; one white-collar spy), so they are/were probably less dangerous when in prison than the average long-sentence prisoner.
For all three they probably safer being in isolation. Criminals have an odd sense of hierarchy. I could see terrorists and traitors being treated on the same level as pedophiles. Someone nutty like Kazynski probably wouldn’t fare well either.
Personally I would rather be in a Supermax than in general population in a dungeon like Rahway or Trenton State.
The OP link didn’t go deep enough. Check out the wiki on ADX Florence. It lists who is currently incarcerated there. A lot them are in there because they have assaulted or killed guards or inmates. The rest seem to be terrorists, and El Chapo.
Quoted for truth.
This is IMHO, so you’re free to spout your snarky opinions, but do you actually know anything about anything related to the subject.
“Hurr durr, he’s a mass murderer living better than American middle class”
Norway famously has the lowest rate of recidivism in the world. They are very practical about it. It’s better for society as a whole if they treat their criminals better, than their criminals treated their victims.
Heh, you don’t have to convince me! I may be snarky, but I’m fully aboard the “make America civilized again for once” train.
Count me among those who don’t see the point of abusing our prisoners the way we do, whether they’re in a Supermax, general population, or Gitmo. And then farm them like cattle for the private corps that run many of these operations. It’s just… well, like you said, impractical. It is not an evidence-based approach to criminal justice.
I just pointed out the Norwegian model because it is such a stark contrast showing how it absolutely doesn’t have to be this way. I wish American discourse more often took a comparative lens… all too often, we think we’re the only ones who know how to do something, and never bother to look at how the developed countries deal with similar situations. But I’m sure I’m just preaching to the choir here.
As an aside, though, I do wonder about recidivism and rehabilitation (anywhere) when it comes to mass murderers/spree shooters/serial killers and the like. It’s one thing when you commit a crime of passion and kill a particular individual in the heat of the moment. But when you methodically execute a plan to kill nearly 80 people you don’t know, including children… could even the most benevolent music production education program rehabilitate them into a “normal” citizen again? Is there any neighborhood in any society that would welcome them back and give them a chance, or would they immediately hunt him down and slaughter him? Is there any way to rehabilitate someone like that?
Racism is not a small part of it, and being poor means you cant hire the top legal talent. However, only around 8% of all prisoners are in private prisons.
I certainly agree treating criminal better will lower recidivism, but maybe his suite is a little bit too much, eh?
The guiding principle is that a prisoner is put in a Supermax unit because they cannot have normal contact with other prisoners. That can either be because they are likely to be violent towards other prisoners or because other prisoners are likely to be violent towards them.
Non-private prisons are also a business. For example prison guards are a significant force behind “tough on crime” laws because their employment depends on as many people as possible being imprisoned for as long as possible. And then there’s all that prison labor.
Nope. Prison guards have work security. It is a job few want. In Santa Clara county, a good number of prison guards- who are LEOs there, try to get into the sheriffs as soon as they can- usually after three years. Most prisons are overcrowded, and the guards hate that- means more work for the same pay, and prisoners who get more rowdy, and thus their job becomes more dangerous. So, no prison guards do NOT want more prisoners.
Yes. Here in California for example they were one of the forces behind the “Three Strikes Law” that put lots of people in prison.
So, you (prisoner) are punished more if other prisoners want to kill you?
No, because as I’ve said, being classified into a Supermax unit is not considered to be a punishment.
That was not my experience. Prison guards had very little political influence and what little we had was directed towards getting higher salaries.
If anything, I would guess that prison guards want a sweet spot of inmate capacity - just enough that they will have a job, but few enough so that it can make their workload light.