Why do you need a gun?

That sounds like a politician answer. I’d like to hear you answer like someone who has nothing to hide. I think you said you would like semi-auto rifles banned. If that were to happen, do you think it would be a good thing if they were then confiscated?

Also I’m still waiting to hear if you think semi-auto shotguns, or if handguns should be legal or not. Just your honest opinion, is all I ask. Thanks. :slight_smile:

For the record, I never said this.

Banned in the same way that full-machine guns are banned right?

How about you just explain your position instead of baiting us so that you can reject our guesses?

I never said that. Quote me, or retract this statement.

It always amuses me to see a Canadian kick the shit out of an American on a US Constitution issue. You rock, Bryan!

[sub]FTR, I’m a dual citizen. I kinda love/hate both sides of the border.[/sub]

OK, I’ll look for it. In the meantime you could answer my questions instead of arguing about what you said or not. Seems you are bending over backwards to avoid saying what you think. Why is that?

I have stated what I think. I feel no obligation to meet your demands.

You said:

“I think we should ban unrestricted private ownership of full automatic rifles.”

Whoops, we did. From your cold dead hands. So the 2nd is not absolute, and we are simply negotiating the details."

Later:

“We, as in America. America bans guns, under federal law.”

And then:

“Well, excuse me. If we can just have the same regulations on semi-automatic rifles as we do on automatic rifles, do you really think the gun fetishists would agree that is not a ban?”

Do you think handguns should be banned? Do you think semi-auto shotguns should be banned?

Chicago first required registration of handguns, then a year or so later, when it passed a law banning handgun ownership, used the registration list to confiscate those handguns.

No, I was arguing that SOME people arguing for registration have a more-comprehensive agenda in mind (which can hardly be called hidden as in the past they have openly admitted that bans were their goal). Since registration clearly makes later confiscation easier, gun owners are therefore rightfully wary of it.

It’s not paranoia when there really ARE people out to get you.

Now that you realize I never said I would like semi-auto rifles banned, do you retract that claim?

Oh, really. In that case, you can tell me how registration benefits me. Please, tell me how that works. How do I benefit? Enlighten me. How does it benefit me that there will now be a record of my cobweb covered shotgun? I’m not seeing any point, here. Perhaps you have one you can present. Present it.

For fuck’s sake! He could certainly be excused for inferring that from your statements. Why are you wasting everyone’s time with this shit when you could just explain whatever your point is more clearly?

Nope, I can tell exactly what you mean. I would be happy to hear you clarify if you think misunderstand you. :slight_smile:

Because it would not satisfy those who want to believe that everyone in favor of changing gun laws wants to confiscate all their guns.

I think he does not want gun rights advocates to know, what they already strongly suspect, which is that pretty much all the so called “reasonable restriction” guys really want eventual confiscation. They want to maintain that the slippery slope argument is irrational, when in fact it’s all according to their plans/wishes.

Right Fear Itself? Right Boblibdem? Right Czarcasm?

The reason no one wants to answer you is you seem to insist on holding down both sides of the conversation. Proceed.

Squirm, squirm, squirm.