Why do you need a gun?

I lived in Alaska for seven years, and while I was not off the grid, I was outside the city limits, and frequently had wildlife in my yard. I’ve been chased by yearling moose, and drove them off with nothing but my loud voice and flailing arms. I saw bears, but never had a reason to challenge them, so maybe I was just lucky. Live and let live is my toolset in those kind of situations, I guess.

Think goood thoughts! No one needs a gun, just think goood thoughts and the bad will go away!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Have you ever used your gun against a *baaaad *thing?

I agree FearItself.

Outside City Limits? Yep me too.

There was another time I forgot about. About 20 years ago - Bear in the bed of my pickup truck.

SURPRISE!

I understand that I am living in their world. Not the other way around. I do my best to not disturb the animals here. The moose are welcome to forage over my septic field. The bears, I try my best to not keep anything tempting for them.

I have used firearms to scare bears away when nothing else works. Bears break into homes up here (up here meaning altitude) a few times a year.

I’ve been up here, meaning central Colorado Rockies for 23 years. I have used firearms to protect myself and property. :shrug:

My Wife does not shoot. I like to target shoot myself. We are both left of center and support Obama. If I suddenly decided to destroy my firearms and not have a gun in the house, my Wife would think I was nuts. As would anyone else I know.

I am competent and safe with the guns I own. I have yet to see a compelling argument for me to have them destroyed.

Who is proposing arguments to destroy your guns?

If you want to see a real-world example of this, you could look for BobLibDem’s posts in other threads on the topic. It’s not all that uncommon a viewpoint among certain members of the left.

So what? Do you believe they will influence official policy in the Obama administration?

I believe many of them are currently attempting to do so. Besides, you asked “who’s proposing arguments?” I told you–many people on the left.

Obama’s official policy statements are bad (read that as “ill-advised and evidence he’s listening to Brady more than anyone with any actual knowledge about firearms”) enough, as they’ll (if enacted by Congress, which is admittedly almost a nonexistent chance) make illegal one of my two firearms–the significantly less deadly one, in point of fact. On the other hand, the bulk of his executive orders seem to focus appropriately, IMHO, on examining the gun owners rather than the guns, so I’m not actually all that un-hopeful about some sane changes being made.

Who cares what many of them are attempting to do, the fact is they are highly unlikely to be able to ban any type of firearm. The most they can accomplish is a restriction on magazaine capacity. Some of the liberals on this board are just afraid of guns, just like some conservatives on this board are just afraid of science.

Obama’s list of 23 items seems to have a lot of good ideas (and a few not so good ones), unless you have a problem with things like background checks.

If the firearm they will be banning is an AR or AK, then your other firearm is either a VERY high caliber handgun, a shotgun or another rifle. Most handguns aren’t even half as powerful as a 5.56. You literally have to get up to

The FBI statistics would seem to disagree: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-15

From the figures in that table, knives are used more often than long guns for lethal self-defense. Hard to defend semi-auto long guns for self-defense on that basis.

I don’t think the frequency with which they’re used for self-defense is much of a comment on their suitability for the task. Semi-auto long guns are, on average, significantly more expensive than handguns, and thus not nearly as common, but they’re great for stopping bad guys. Just ask soldiers or cops who immediately whip out their “patrol rifles” whenever they suspect there’s a dangerous bad guy nearby.

Also, I’m not defending the right to keep and bear semi-auto rifles solely on the basis of their utility in self-defense. There are plenty of other uses for them. In fact, I’m not even “defending” the right. My feelings are much along the lines of CR’s #3 in post #3.