I heard a preacher on tv who doesn’t request that people send money by the way, and he uses Strong’s Concordance all the time and warns that we make sure we get the right word about the Word. He is a fundamentalist, or at least seems to take things literally. He says that when someplace in the Bible says the devil (and bad souls) will be thrown in the lake of fire forever, that word forever meant once and for all, more like forever more will they be completely gone. They are burnt up once and for all, they don’t go on being punished. He also says that their names will be blotted out from the Book of Life, so that let’s say you had a wife you liked but she went to the lake of fire, when you are in heaven you won’t remember her and therefore you won’t be sad that she is gone. He says that let’s say Person A murdered Person B. When they both get to heaven before God, God will leave it up to Person B whether Person A is to be tossed into the lake of fire. He doesn’t mention that if Person B decided to have A sent to the second death, God might then send Person B along with because he wasn’t loving and forgiving! I also will add that this concept of the Second Death (the utter extinction of the soul , of consciousness) is what the ancient Egyptians had, along with the lake of fire. If you didn’t pass the judgement in the Hall of Thoth, you were thrown in the lake of fire and that was the end of you forever (NOT punishment forever but extinction). (In some accounts you are thrown to a hippopotamus monster who swallows you up and that is your extinction). Also, I’m surprised nobody has mentioned so far the doctrine of hell being not fire or punishment from the devil but just being absent from the love of God.
Whatever one’s opinions about the morality of this particular self-professed Biblical literalists teachings about hell, they do not appear to square well with the actual words of the Bible on the subject (at least not in the New Testament).
-me
-me earlier
-don willard
Well I don’t use the L word but state that the condemmed will be away from God and don’t mention the fire part.
souls pretty. me like pretty
maybe they taste like Chicken?
plus, when the battle of the Light and the Evil come into play, the Devil wants as many minions on his side as possible; which won’t do him a shitload of good seeing as Nicky will throw down a white orb, Ozzy Osbourne will pop out, and bite the head off of the devil, and all will be right… errr… [rewind] ; which won’t do him a shitload of good seeing as God will Smite him down with White Light, and everyone will reign, Jesus will be at the right hand of the father, and they will Reign in Unison forever and all Eternity.
If your an athiest, you should know the futility of trying to get straight answers from any religion. They are all built up of collected myths absorbed from prior beliefs and those introduced by war and mingling.
The classic form is outlined in Brave New World, where the wilds of future America are inhabited by people with mixed beliefs of Christianity and old Indian gods and rituals.
This mixing of strange bedfellows creates a need to explain the old with the new, and pointless relationships between them paper over the gaps.
The question is: Who chooses who goes to hell or heaven?
If Satan did it, wouldn’t everyone go to hell?
If God did it, wouldn’t everyone go to heaven because he loves all men regardless of their actions?
I just saw the movie “Bedazzled” (1967). It’s about a guy, who makes a deal with the Devil. The Devil explains that He is in a game with God, the one who gets 100 billion souls first wins. hmm… I just thought of an idea for a .sig.
What about the person living the life???
You’ve never met any Calvinists, have you?
“The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates.” – Psalms 5:11
Eh. It was worth a shot. This thread is closed.