Why does the United Negro College fund feel the need to lie so egregiously?

Of course you do, dear. Have a nice cup of tea now, why don’t you?

And this has what relevance to the UNCF ad?

Aside from the fact that it didn’t have 3 axis control, if you include Stringfellow’s invention then you have to include every flying toy before it.

Glad to clarify. AFAIK, UNCF scholarships are for students that attend the schools affiliated with it - historically Black colleges and universities. I know I never met the criteria for any of their scholarships as an undergrad. And I know of (through other’s accounts, not personally) White students who have received UNCF awards.

No, I don’t – I was writing here about the airplane engine. not heavier-than air flight *. Stringfellow does seem to have built the first reciprocating engine engine for heavier-than-air flight.

*And my article did include earlier heavier-than-air flying toys. There was a helicopter toy prior to Stringfellow’s (1842, by W.H. Philips) that used steam jets, but that’s not in the same class as a complex reciprocating engine.

None whatever other than what is plain to see. If the UNCF wants us to be universally aware of the contributions that African-Americans, or Blacks in general, have made to the various devices that effect our lives, then possibly labels identifying such contributions should be attached to whatever device benefited by such contributions. Otherwise, how are we to know? Assuming we care, that is.

Maybe I will feel better after I have a nice cup of tea. And my medicine. I need my medicine.

Actually, Hippy Hollow, they may have changed their policy. According to their website, “UNCF supports minority students at many schools that are not HBCUs. However, UNCF directly supports 39 private HBCUs.”

I still think your comments about their precarious position are applicable though.

Um, presumably by seeing their ad which says nothing about government labeling?

Sounds like a plan! :slight_smile:

No, the government labeling is my idea since the ad might not be seen by everyone, leaving many people uninformed. Besides which, I doubt the ad names all of the devices that have been invented or improved by blacks. Maybe we should also tag all the devices invented or improved by women? Or, what the hell, let’s just tag everything with all the information we can find or fabricate.

I’ve taken my medicine and the water for the tea is heating. I think I need my blankie though.

Pearse’s aircraft also 3-axis control and also had ailerons instead of the wing-warping system the Wrights used. However, he realised how far ahead of him the Wrights were (as you say, with wind tunnels and measuring equipment and so forth), which is why he didn’t go about saying “Hang on, I was flying long before the Wrights and have witnesses to prove it!”.

He basically acknowledged that whilst he might have gotten a plane into the air and managed controlled, powered flight first (there is at least one witness to Pearse making a 1km controlled flight with turns in May 1903), the Wrights were the first people to establish a solid foundation for heavier-than-air flight, and were the people who popularised the idea and proved that it had commercial value and practicality. So in that respect, Pearse was the first person to make a controlled, powered, heavier than air flight, but the Wrights were the first people to really understand how it all worked and to have some sort of scientific idea of what they were doing to make it work properly.

So, if I invent a hairbrush with liger hair can I said that “the hairbrush” was an innovation that came from my mind.?
Sorry, don’t buy it.

Thanks for that well thought post. I pretty much agree with everything in it.

How is "cunt’ any different than “prick”? They’re both vulgar put-downs. Why is one allowed, and not the other? Because Ed says so? That’s fine, but at least man up and admit it.

We totally did this already.

I see we’re making some wonderful progress here. Keep at it, folks! The fate of the free world rests in your keyboards!

Elevator and aileron are the first 2 axis of control. the 3rd axis is rudder control and I don’t see any mention of this with Pearse’s plane. This is what the Wright Brothers discovered with their gliders as necessary to prevent the plane from slipping and allow coordinated turns. Also, the Pearse plane did not have a cambered wing so it was more of a powered hang glider. Still way ahead of it’s time.

Thanks sailor. Nothing like a warm and fuzzy Pit moment in the morning :).

“Cunt” allows Ed to come riding in on his white horse and save the delicate damsel from having her ears violated by such vulgarity.

Of course they’re different. Cunt is a far more forceful word than prick, in fact it’s probably the most forceful term of abuse in the language.

All swear words are not created equal.

Especially when one has been the subject of a brilliant George Carlin comedy routine…