Would you care to offer some other examples of this kind of “activism” that have been pooh-poohed?
Thank you. I am glad I’m not the only one who thought that.
Yet another false statement on your part. Everybody on earth lives in the 21st century, regardless of what state or country they live, so your claim that 90% of white people in Mississippi are not living in the 21st century is false.
Recently there was a Senate election in which liberal, nationwide media bombarded the Republican candidate, Cindy Hyde-Smith with false charges of racism. Those charges were easy to debunk. Hyde-Smith is not a racist and even Mississippi Democrats generally admire her fir fairness and bipartisanship, and it’s no surprise that she easily defeated the very corrupt Mike Espy.
If you had any evidence to back up your implied charge that 90% of whites in Mississippi are racist, you would have presented it by now. You have not presented such evidence because no such evidence exists.
You seem to have missed the point entirely. You have a plan for George Soros or Tom Steyer to bring blacks from Mississippi to Florida by offering them jobs, but it’s illegal to offer jobs to only members of one race. If George Soros starts hiring people in Florida, he would be required by law to offer jobs to people of all races. Whites from Mississippi could apply for those jobs. So could Hispanics and Native Americans and any other group of people from Mississippi. So could people from any other state. There is no legal way to limit the jobs offered to blacks only.
Likewise if Soros or Steyer were to offer housing or transportation, they could not legally discriminate by race. Any offer to assist blacks in moving from Mississippi to Florida would have to be offered to whites on an equal basis.
(Admittedly those working for Soros don’t seem to care about the law very much.)
I don’t remember how many people were relocated, but it wasn’t enough to swing an election. A few dozen, maybe 100 at the most, in a city of 70,000 or thereabouts.
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Interesting how that American Spectator article fails to mention that Hyde-Smith went to a segregation academy, then sent her own daughter to one; while Espy bravely became the first black student at a formerly all-white public school.
You keep defending white Mississippians, but it is painfully obvious that every step they have made toward less bigoted policies has been grudging, de minimis, inventing loopholes whenever possible, and only undertaken at all because the federal government has forced them. If they got the full-blown “states’ rights” they are always agitating for, they’d have full blown Jim Crow laws back in force before you can finish whistling Dixie.
I said “this kind of activism”, not “these kinds of activism”, so what is your point exactly?
I live next door to Mississippi in Arkansas. I assure you racism.is real and happening.
Saying that living in the 21st century is a false statement is just silly. We all know what was meant.
Yeah, that was so silly I didn’t even address it. To “debunk” a statement because it uses a kind of hyperbole in a well-understood idiomatic fashion but is not hyper-literally true? C’mon. It reminds me of when I’d say to my kids “just a second” and then they’d say “okay, that was more than a second”. :rolleyes:
It was a question. I wondered where this activism had been tried or suggested before where it got pooh-poohed.
Just to clarify, are you asserting that the nature of Hyde-Smith and her daughter’s schooling proves her racism?
Yes.
Ok, thanks
I can’t believe I actually agree with the two of you. Both the application and the optics would be disastrous (apart from the fact that Soros isn’t stupid enough to try this). There are so many better ways he could, if so inclined, spend the money to increase Democratic voting power.
Plus note that a lot of black Florida voters (former non-violent felons, especially those imprisoned on drug charges, a population that skews heavily black) have just been re-enfranchised. Might be worth waiting to see how that changes the equation before we start moving whole towns’ worth of people across state lines.
#notallwhitepeople, true, but recent evidence does suggest that racism still runs strong in the white population of Mississippi.
To say the least.
I almost let septimus get by with cherrypicking Trump’s win in Florida by over 113,000 votes. But earlier this month, Rick Scott won by only 10,000; and of course Dubya won (if he did at all) by only a few hundred votes. So his inflated figure of 300,000 is far more than would be needed for those elections. If we accept his ratio (which is frankly a little tilted, but w/e), that’s more like 25,000 new African American residents to shift the balance. That’s about two percent of the black population of Mississippi.
Why write off Mississippi to move voters to a higher-population state? Just for the Electoral College? Mississippi is full of black folks, and could be turned back into a majority black state, if the dominant culture in the USA would let any state be majority black.
Jewish billionaire, because that helps. :rolleyes:
As someone who still lives in Missouri, I don’t want to see it turned even whiter. It seems like your proposals would be as follows:
- To take Mississippi, the state with the highest proportion of blacks, 5 points higher than Louisiana, and bleed some of them to concede it completely to Jim Crow.
- To completely concede Missouri, a former bellwether state turned heavily GOP through years of work by the right wing, and give the likes of Rusty Limbaugh and Roy Blunt a bigger cushion against the large minority of voters who turn out for Democrats every election.
If we could manage the scale, these would be brilliant political power plays, yesfor the Conservative Movement, not for progressives, Democrats, nor moderates.
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If you are going to move them anywhere, move them into a low populated state like North Dakota.
Personally, I am a fan of Amazon or Microsoft or one of thems opening a corporate headquarters with hundreds of thousands of jobs to be had to right about here.
Moving a million people into that spot would flip 3 states pretty solidly, as there are less than 3 million total people living in those three states combined. Maybe even pick up a representative or two.
Just paying people to move is stupid, expensive, and is unlikely to get anything like what the OP wants. Moving people into an already highly populated state even less.
OTOH, creating economic incentives for people to move is much cheaper and far less patronizing. Advertise jobs with good pay and benefits, as well as paying for relocation expenses. You may end up paying more than en employee is worth, but in the OP’s scenario, you are just straight up supporting an individual for the purpose of them voting in your favor. It seems you could really just go out and buy votes for far, far less.
Cute. And would the state governments of ND, SD, and MT have anything to say about this? Even GOP governments actually have some state control over economic development.
For now, I’m just glad that some states are belatedly passing anti-gerrymandering laws by referendum.
Since when do states have laws preventing people from moving into them or businesses opening?
Everything like that, as far as zoning and economic development, is done at county or municipal level. You only look to the states if you are wanting them to give you tax breaks for moving in.
Seriously, if I want to build a massive industrial park in West Bowman, ND, what could the state do to stop me? The county could make zoning and permitting a pain, but with a population of barely over 3k, would be easy enough to grease the local politicians to ease such concerns.
When I opened my business, my only responsibility to the state was to file a DBA (which is actually optional if you don’t mind that someone else could open a business with the same name) and pay appropriate taxes. I never had to ask permission.
You ask if the state govts would have something to say about this, I turn the question around to you, what can the state governments say about this?
And Tom Steyer is worth less than a quarter of Soros.