Why Don't Basketball Players Do This?

Here is the entire rule, as opposed to just the first half posted above.

c. A successful field goal attempt from the area outside the three-point field goal line shall count three points.
(1) The shooter must have at least one foot on the floor outside the three-point field goal line prior to the attempt.
(2) The shooter may not be touching the floor on or inside the three-point field goal line.
(3) The shooter may contact the three-point field goal line, or land in the two-point field goal area, after the ball is released.

From the NBA rule book

This may offer an answer to some previous inquiries.

The shot offered in the op, is not a high percentage shot, and thus is not tried.

Or it could be that a lot of players in the NBA own white cars, and are therefore boring, and would not try such a flashy play.

I interpret the NBA rule to mean that the shooter must have at least one foot on the ground outside the 3-point line before he shoots.

If you pass the ball to the player as he is moving, he would have to catch it and release it with at least one foot outside the line. He could be running in, but he wouldn’t get far.

Meaning the 3-point shot described in the OP could indeed be used in the NBA, and not just College.

And until some pro-NBA players actually try this, we can not say for sure whether it would be worth it or not. I have seen Shawn Kemp comfortably dunk from the free-throw line, and I would bet that if he spent a lot of time practicing a “3-point-leap-then-shoot-from-mid-air-shot”, he would have a higher degree of success doing that then a vertical leap from the 3 point line.

I stress… after * a lot of practice*.

  1. I have a hard time believe even the mighty Kemp can comfortably dunk from the free-throw line consistently. Even in the slam dunk contests, it’s clearly a huge effort.

  2. If leaping forward resulted in higher percentages, it would be used throughout the game whenever there was an opening. It is not used, whenever there is open space, the player goes there, and jumps more or less straight up from there.

(Unless they are <5" from basket, where moves in the air to the basket become much more significant.)

You mean you expect an NBA to be able to jump from 22 feet from the basket and then stay in the air high enough to be able to dunk?

The NBA rule states where the player’s foot has to be prior to the attempt. That means he must have a foot on the ground outside the line prior to the rule book’s definition of an “attempt”

And that is:

So, the officials would see a player with the ball in his hand going up for a shot and that would be considered an attempt. *It is not essential that the ball leave the shooter’s hand. *

But I’m not an NBA ref.

I can’t believe this thread has yet to die a natural death. Might as well try to sum up every point to answer every question.

The scenario in the OP would be a 3 point attempt. A 3 point attempt occus if someone shoots after last having stepped beyond the 3 point line without then touching anythin on or inside of the line.

No one would be able to dunk from the 3 point line. No one would attempt this shot (and not be benched for stupidity) because it is low percentage and difficult when one considers the other shot options available. No one takes this shot because the opportunities are rare to be able to build up enough speed with enough ball control and no defenders. Hence, no one practices this shot because it won’t happen in a game.

Finally, even if you were to subscribe to the notion that with enough practice it would become much easier, I heartily disagree. Having played for 20 years and at pretty darn high levels, I can say that al of the time I have spent shooting means I make about 50% of my shots from 10-15 feet out. How much practice would it take to even thinka bout reaching that percentage on what is essentially an uncontrolled long jump?

Finally, the fact that there are 5 people on the floor that want to stop you from scoring is a problem. The only time this shot could happen is on a completely wide open fast break where no one else even crosses half court. Watch 20 games and see how often this occurs. Otherwise, the defender will either slow you down, foul you, cause you to commit a turnover, or take a charge.

In short, ain’t gonna happen.

Any player who tried could get reamed by his coach, although a successful attempt would look really, really cool. Assuming a complete breakaway, the player might be able to charge the 3-point line unhindered, but once he makes his sub-orbital leap, he’s in no position to take his own rebound if he fails, which is very very likely. He’ll have so much forward momentum that it will take him at least a second or two to recover, assuming he doesn’t crash into the backboard support (if there is one) or the cheerleaders sitting on the sidelines, etc. And if his shot bounces off the rim or the backboard, it’ll go God-knows-where, probably ending up in the hands of the defender who’s been chasing the shooter down the court and who paused to gape at the shooter’s cool-looking but ultimately dumb showboating.

So either stop dead at the 3-point line and try a long free throw, or take an easy 2 on the layup. Save the fancy stuff for dunking contests.

Thank you Mullinator

IANANBABP. :slight_smile: But this is definitely one of the main points in favor of the jump shot. As range increases, the increased power of the jump shot starts to become more important than the decreased shooting stability. The changeover point will vary depending on the player, naturally. I wouldn’t mess with a jump shot for a free throw-the increased power is useless for me at that range. I sure wouldn’t try a set shot for an NBA three-pointer, that would be certain to come up a couple feet short. (The jump shot would probably miss, too-but it might at least hit the rim, so nobody would start chanting, “Air ball! Air ball!”)

The main power of an outside shot comes from the legs. When you see Byrd (um, saw Byrd, seeing as he’s retired) making those set-shot three pointers, you’ll still see his legs flexing with every launch. He just gets enough power from that much flex to get the ball to the basket, so he holds it there and takes advantage of the accuracy benefit of the stable shooting position. You can get more power from your legs by flexing them more-but then your body leaves the ground, making it harder to put the ball where you intend.

This is all in the ‘free shot’ context, naturally. In practice, the primary reason players make jump shots in a game is that the chance of getting off a set shot unblocked is nil.

(Didn’t play much b-ball myself, you understand, but I got lots of instruction from my dad, who was nicknamed ‘Half-Court’ by his college team … damn, he used to kick my ass at ‘Horse’ like you wouldn’t believe …)

Any player who tried could get reamed by his coach, although a successful attempt would look really, really cool. Assuming a complete breakaway, the player might be able to charge the 3-point line unhindered, but once he makes his sub-orbital leap, he’s in no position to take his own rebound if he fails, which is very very likely. He’ll have so much forward momentum that it will take him at least a second or two to recover, assuming he doesn’t crash into the backboard support (if there is one) or the cheerleaders sitting on the sidelines, etc. And if his shot bounces off the rim or the backboard, it’ll go God-knows-where, probably ending up in the hands of the defender who’s been chasing the shooter down the court and who paused to gape at the shooter’s cool-looking but ultimately dumb showboating.

So either stop dead at the 3-point line and try a long free throw, or take an easy 2 on the layup. Save the fancy stuff for dunking contests.

I would also add that the OP said that players can dunk free throws.

While it isn’t that hard for players with a running start to jump from the free throw line and dunk, it would require superhuman strength to do so for a free throw because a free throw shooter is limited to standing inside the semi-circle behind the free throw line.

This would allow someone only 6 feet to run before jumping and I don’t see anyone outside of Superman performing such a feat.

BobT- “I would also add that the OP said that players can dunk free throws.

NOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

I meant some can dunk after jumping from the free throw line, but they were RUNNING toward the basket before that!

But you could make an inference from the OP that you could dunk free throws.

It was said that Wilt Chamberlain tried this when he was in college because he was such a poor free throw shooter and that was one reason why the rule was adopted keeping the player in the circle when he shot.

This topic was also touched on before 3 or 2 points

And back in this thread, I was corrected on the Big Dipper’s desire to dunk a free throw.

As for the OP, my gym teacher said when I raised the same question, and I quote “I would pay money to see that.”

The problem is that long jump dunkers require a lot of time to recover.