Someday I am going to start a Great Debate about Clancy the Great Undead Unicorn that lives in my closet and cite as evidence my revelations transcribed directly from him.
It’ll be lively, but in the end all detractors are wrong and at least I did the horned ones work seeding his equine message.
Try to find something in your bible about the fall of Satan. Good luck.
God wants people to freely, of their own will, choose to love him* or else burn for infinity in tortured, endless agony.
*
And people worship this thing? Sounds more like a comic book super villain than a merciful father.
Guys, if Timo was going to answer a question directly painting him into a debate corner he’d answer it already. He’s learning though, answering less and less as he realizes he’s in over his head.
Thanks for sharing.
Clearly he’s not a Jesuit. They give their students better training before setting them loose.
Stranger
If god has the power to stop suffering yet chooses not to for some stupid and pathetic reason like he wants us to choose him, then god is evil. I’m better than god because I would help someone consumed by evil and rid that out of him so that we’re both happier. Nothing about free will is better than eternal torture, NOTHING. If god doesn’t stop that and he has the power to, that makes him the most evil thing imaginable
But I digress. This topic is about why don’t people believe in god, not follow him. I don’t believe him because he doesn’t exist
I cannot believe in a god who has such a low opinion of dogs.
Last one before I sleep.
Well I’m just saying, if you’re going to ask me to prove God, then you’re going to have to do your part and disprove him.
Because if you disprove him somehow, then I wouldn’t have to prove that God exists.
That was my reasoning.
It works one way. Disprove one, and the other is true. Prove one, and the other is false. If you can’t prove that God doesn’t exist, that means there’s a possibility that he does exist. Therefore, you would be answering the problem.
it’s great that Christianity has helped you out when you needed it. know however, that it is not the only way. people cope with a myriad variety of life’s obstacles in their own different way, everyday, all around the world. it is what makes the world beautiful.
what’s important is that you focus on how Christianity has helped you and how you could also help others in turn. what you want to do is extend a helping hand and not preach. you do not want to question why other people do not follow your way. you do not want other people to abandon what works for them just to join you, for what works for you might not work for them. you do not need to demonise others to justify your position. people do not believe in Christianity because it is just someone else’s imaginary god. people do not need a religion, what they need is a helping hand.
You can be that helping hand, just don’t slap people with it by preaching instead of reaching out.
No, that is not reasoning. You are the one making the claim that god exists. The burden is on you to prove it.
Which god? Can you disprove Zeus? Can you disprove my dog is god? Then STFU.
No, sorry, that isn’t the way logic works. You don’t get to postulate any wackadoodle notion–say, that the Universe was created by some omnipotent being with a flowing beard and a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder–and then demand that everyone else disprove your claim, especially when said claim lacks any hint of observable objective evidence. This is a lesson which is generally learned by children around the age of five.
Stranger
Okay, this is the last.
Haha, this is a literal version of Him falling from Heaven.
Luke 10:18
And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
But that’s most likely not what you mean.
Isaiah 14:12-15
How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.[a]
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
15 But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit.
Notice the “I will” statements of pride, but you’re right I think, there isn’t a verse that states directly that Satan fell because of pride, but from the verse above, we can infer that he did. I don’t know all the versus so there might be one, there might not be one.
Don’t talk to other posters this way unless you’re in the Pit.
I did that. The “infinite” attributes which are granted to God by (some) modern Christians are logically self-contradictory. There can be no such thing as “infinite power.” The term doesn’t even have meaning. There can be no such thing as “infinite knowledge.” This is easily demonstrated, since such knowledge would have to have full knowledge of itself, while, at the same time, being infinite, is beyond any limit, and thus can never be known “fully.” Again, the very term “infinite knowledge” has no defined (or definable) meaning.
The God that reverend Joe, down at the All-Nite Shrine and Tabernacula, preaches absolutely cannot exist.
OK so you have only seen one side of the argument, how can you dismiss science when even in your own words you don’t know much about it?
It seems that people who bother to learn science steer away from magic sky people making the world.
Evolution does not disprove god at all, that’s a fairly ignorant statement. What it does disprove is the view of creationists who are fairly low on the totem pole of Christians worldwide.
Water is colorless.
Let’s see here.
God demands unquestioning believe without evidence. (faith)
Science demands questioning everything including the evidence. Independent verification of results. Proof and not just once, but every single time. Then do everything you can to disprove your results.
Science doesn’t disprove god. Because there is nothing there to disprove.
Really?
OK I say that the Flying Spaghetti Monster explains all. Go on disprove it!