[QUOTE=Sevastopol]
Israel’s the poison ivy that’s the death of judaism.
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Wait a second! Shouldn’t that be “the poison ivy that’s the irritating itch of Judaism”? You’re aware that poison ivy isn’t lethal right (at least not unless you go out and eat a bunch of it)?
If your going to make the effort to construct a metaphor, lets try and set the bar a little higher as far as having them make sense.
We’ve covered all of mine already: censorship, religion, highly hawkish, the dad from Alf, and is a democrat when it’s convenient but endorses the other party’s candidate.
To expand on the last one, I’m not a democrat but it doesn’t sit right with me to call yourself a member of one party while endorsing the other. It’s not just endorsing the other either. He’s actually taken a swing or two at Obama himself. If he wanted to do so as an independent, that’s not a problem. I just don’t like him doing it while calling himself an independent democrat.
[QUOTE=happywaffle]
I don’t consider it valid criticism that he’s “switched sides” and joined up with the GOP on so many issues. …Okay, I DO think it’s valid criticism, but if he’s simply following his beliefs, then it’s no reason to degrade him any more than any other politician whom you disagree with.
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It isn’t that itself, it’s his taking every possible opportunity to criticize the party that rejected him in its last primary for its immorality in not sharing those beliefs. To be clear, the “belief” in which he differs is in being even more hawkish on those pesky Muslims than Bush or McCain (his own faith has to guide those views, obviously). He has let his chickenhawkism dominate everything he says or does, including so repudiating the Dems publicly that he’s accepted an invitation to speak at the GOP convention/pep rally to do so. Don’t know/care if he’s endorsed McCain officially yet, but it’s inevitable anyway.
I’m actually more annoyed by the Republican media still calling him a Democrat, so they can point to him as an example of a sane, principled one, than by Lieberman himself.
But as long as his vote makes the Senate committee chairs Democrats, well, so what? In a few months he won’t matter anyway.
[QUOTE=Sevastopol]
Israel’s the poison ivy that’s the death of judaism.
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I think that Jews will always be welcome in the US, particularly on the coasts. They contribute a lot to our culture.There are approximately as many Jews here as in Israel or all of Europe. The quoted view is, I hope, far too pessimistic.
[QUOTE=Bridget Burke]
And Leiberman’s betrayal of Gore during the Florida debacle still haunts me.
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I don’t know this reference.
-FrL-
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]
But as long as his vote makes the Senate committee chairs Democrats, well, so what?
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That vote happened seventeen months ago, and won’t be undone - it takes some kind of supermajority to undo the Senate’s organizing resolution. If three Dem Senators kicked off tomorrow, putting the Dems in the numerical minority, Harry Reid would still be considered the Majority Leader, and Dems (and Lieberman) would still chair all the committees. (Reid can’t strip Joe of his committee chairmanship either, during this Congress.)
[QUOTE=The Second Stone]
I think that Jews will always be welcome in the US, particularly on the coasts. They contribute a lot to our culture.There are approximately as many Jews here as in Israel or all of Europe. The quoted view is, I hope, far too pessimistic.
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Don’t worry, people have been predicting the death of Judaism for a looooooooong time. 