A broken nose typically bleeds freely. I don’t see a trace of blood on his green tee shirt.
The lawyer never said his nose was broken. He said “I believe his nose was broken” and “he sustained an injury to his nose” and his head wound “probably” needed stitches. The best he could do when it was in Zimmermans interest to be potrayed as the victim.
If it’s truly Zimmerman’s contention that Martin repeatedly smashed his head on the sidewalk, then he is lying. He would have been a concussed, bloody mess.
I can’t play it directly, but it works from the news story.
The police report said he got first aid at the scene, but I don’t see any bandages. I examined the video and you can see the policeman examining the back of his head and at 1:03 you can see a big lump on the back of his head. I saw one profile shot and his nose didn’t look that bad. I can’t see the grass stains either.
Try seeing the video here.
In the leaked police report, the first officer on scene says Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and back of the head. He was treated by the Fire Department at the scene. From the video, it doesn’t look like had been bleeding enough to get blood on his shirt. There are no bandages on his face or back of the head that I could see.
That link has the same issue for me, in all three browsers: No video, no working buttons.
This video is tagged with the same resource number but is presented with a different type of player. I think it is most likely the same video, and ought to work for people unable to view these links.
Correction 1:04. I did a screen shot:
https://picasaweb.google.com/116349204631558149994/March282012?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Hit the magnify glass to blow it up.
They must have some mighty soft sidewalks in Sanford, Fl.
Are you talking about the bump low center on the back of his head? Looks pretty normal to me.
There are crickets from a certain contingent that was pretty vocal a few minutes ago.
Where is all the blood? I expected some speckles at least.
Is it really plausible that someone’s nose could be broken and have a shirt that looks that clean?
Is it really plausible that someone could have a broken nose and NOT seek medical attention right away? Not even a wad of tissue hanging out of his nostril?
Yeah, there is some “shrill” in these questions because goddammit, that footage does not jibe at all with the end result of a life-and-death struggle!
I think I can see a bump, and he does look like he’s been in a scuffle. But I have to admit, he does not *appear *to have been in the kind of beating that would justify shooting someone. I’d like to see a medical report, tho.
On the other hand, he also appears cooperative, sober, and is not being treated with kid gloves. He’s in handcuffs and is being treated like a suspect.
I admit I was expecting some more serious looking injuries. Anyone know how long after this was taken?
Yeah, he looks like he maybe just has a bit of a fat head. It’s not unusual for men with really short haircuts to show a rather lumpy head in that sort of way.
This thread has been pretty remarkable.
He doesn’t look like he’s been in a scuffle to me. His clothes arent ripped, stretched, or dirty. No blood in sight. He walks with a beat in his step, not as though he’s worn out. His shirt almost looks as though it’s tucked in.
I would never guess this man had been in fight.
And of course he’s cooperative. He knows hes not arrested. The handcuffs were just a formality. Notice how much space they give him as he goes into the building. They are not treating him like a potential murderer.
I said as much.
The police might have taken off his shirt for evidence and given him a replacement. It seems like his t-shirt is pixelated?
Note they are also searching him.
Other have said he wasn’t searched, wasn’t handcuffed and wasn’t treated like a suspect. All those are clearly false.
But certainly his nose does not appear to be broken, and as I said- Zimmerman does not show the signs of the kinds of beating that would justify shooting someone. Mind you, certainly he could have still “feared for his life”. But unless we hear of a medical report, his injuries don;t look that bad to me.
Wait. You think it’s remotely possible that the cops carry a wardrobe of replacement clothes around to give to people who’ve gotten them bloody?
George is also not a big fattie anymore. Huh.
But hes still wearing his red sweater. Why wouldn’t the cops collect that as well? Surely blood and grass stains would be on this as well.
Let us zoom in and enhance as they say:
https://picasaweb.google.com/116349204631558149994/March28201202?authuser=0&feat=directlink#
If you have a lump like that on the back of your head, then I suggest you never cut your hair short.
Me too. It doesn’t appear bloody or bruised, which is what you would expect if someone had been bashed in the head by a hard surface.
People should also note that Zimmerman is not chubby and looks like he could easily “follow” a kid.
From the article:
So two minutes are unaccounted for. In this two minutes we are supposed to believe that Martin ambushed Zimmerman, bloodying his nose and slamming his head in, and that they quickly left the street and moved into the yard (how, this has not been explained), where Martin continued to whale on him, sitting atop the screaming Zimmerman. And that Zimmerman, getting the shit kicked out of him, managed to get his gun out of his holster and fire at close range. With non-obvious signs of blood getting on him. Then the police show up. I don’t know how long it took before the gunshot and the arrival of the police, but there must have been some passage of time, right? I just can’t imagine Zimmerman’s beating lasting THAT long. Surely, he would have come out looking a lot worse than he did if he had only gotten one punch in the face and one wack in the head. Unless he was throwing in some punches himself. Oops. That’s speculation. Got to watch myself.
Two minutes. The longest two minutes in Sanford, FL history.
Yeah, and he also has a huge fucking black halo around his head!!! Eeeks.
Remember the face of the guy on Mars? I think you’re doing the same thing here.
Also, I just googled “bald back of head” images, and here’s the fourth one that came up for me: Another guy who got into a fight with Trayvon Martin, I guess.
Yeah, that lump is pretty off center. It could be fat, but I don’t really think so.
But I can’t believe it’s gotten to this point. How does surveillance video get leaked? And are we really analyzing this grainy video to see whether he had facial injuries or not?
I think there was some question earlier about the position of Zimmerman’s truck. Here’s a picture I found: Transfer Station: Image His truck is ~200 feet away from where Martin was shot. A distance Martin took 2 minutes to cover, or a speed of about 1.15 miles per hour. And he was running for part of that time.
Nothing about this is making much sense.