With no ID on him and his dad and his girlfriend being out on a date and not coming home till much later, and the phone supposedly locked, how were they supposed to do that?
They IDed him the next day when Tracey Martin called 911 and they took Trayvon’s picture over to him. I don’t necessarily disagree with the idiot part. You can’t expect a place like Sanford to attract first class help.
I hope they do better on the kid shot Sunday or the three people shot last week.
If you swing and miss, it’s still an attack.
Trayvon Martin Case: Department of Justice to investigate entire Sanford police
[INDENT]
Updated: 4:48 p.m. Wednesday, March 28, 2012
Posted: 9:43 a.m. Wednesday, March 28, 2012
The Trayvon Martin case is bringing more scrutiny on the Sanford Police Department. The Department of Justice will now investigate all cases handled by the police department, after receiving complaints from Sanford citizens.[/INDENT]
Or just grab Martin by the arm. That justifies a poke in the beezer.
Sanford doesn’t have a cell phone retail outlet or three?
Thanks for that link – it’s new news for me. The article notes that DOJ hasn’t made any such announcement yet ( or hadn’t at the time of the story).
I assume it would be fairly easy to return the device to factory settings, but then you end up wiping the data you want. I don’t claim to be an expert in this area, but I assume, or at least hope, cracking a phone password isn’t something a small town police department can do in a couple hours.
BTW, anyone else lamenting the fact that we don’t have Diogenes making half the posts in this thread telling everyone how wrong they are?
We know that’s what Martin’s girlfriend heard first.
You’ve a right to think that, but it’s not something you know or can even be very sure of. It is, frankly, a wild-assed guess. It may be 51% likely Martin struck first, it may be 19%, it may be 77%. I see no difference at all between your WAG and simply not knowing.
My WAG is Zimmerman assaulted Martin first, probably by grabbing him. I based that on his history of violence and temper problems, and what we know of his angry, suspicious state of mind shortly before the shooting. My wild assed guess is just as valid as yours.
I like how everyone in the thread is an expert in martial arts when it comes to explaining how the physical altercation went, an altercation witnessed in whole by no person on Earth except the shooter.
First of all, who says Zimmerman had to HIT Martin? According to my WAG, he grabbed Martin, which is criminal battery and which doesn’t require knocking anyone to the ground. Secondly, if you think it’s certain that Zimmerman would have sent Martin sprawling with a punch… well, you’re just plainly, obviously wrong. That just isn’t something you can know, especially when dealing with people who are not trained fighters, which neither person, AFAIK, was. Fights between ordinary joes are often clumsy, silly affairs. If George Zimmerman doesn’t know how to throw a punch, and most men do not, he could get very little weight behind the punch. Or he could, you know, miss, or just graze Martin or hit his shoulder or something. Or he could have decked Martin, stopped in shock when he realized what he’d done, and Martin could have gotten up. Or, like I said, maybe he didn’t punch at all; maybe he grabbed him, or shoved him. I don’t know and neither do you.
Maybe George Zimmerman’s an idiot. Maybe he lost his temper. (He is, after all, a young man himself.) We know he has been known to lose his head in physical altercations before.
What could the cell phone retail outlet have done?
:eek:
By dialling 911 and getting his phone number. Which they did do - but not until five days later. Since you’ve just been posting about this, it’s odd that you’ve forgotten.
Even if it wasn’t necessary for ID, you’d think it’d be useful for checking out possible witnesses.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/george-zimmerman-shaken-baby_n_1408421.html
My reaction on reading this, is even if the attorney is working pro bono, he is getting paid too much.
Because cops are sooooo technologically savvy.
You don’t have to be tech-savvy to know that you can dial 911 even if your phone’s locked. And really, cops would be more likely to know that than the average person. Surely one single person on their team had this basic piece of info? Obviously somebody did within those five days. This is not rocket surgery.
Betcha more than half the posters that read my post about it didn’t know it.
They aren’t police officers.
Honestly, I have a lot of trouble seeing how it’s realistic to think that a police department would have a cell phone belonging to the victim of a homicide and wouldn’t know what to do about it, wouldn’t even think to ask someone who would know. They’re just sitting around with the phone saying “Gosh, we have this thingy here, what should we do? What’s that, Cletus? We should just sit around doing nothing with it?” Sanford isn’t a big town but it’s not frickin’ Mayberry.
I didn’t know that, but I do recall reading that you can call 911 even if you don’t have cell phone service. I my defense, I can say that I’ve never called 911.
We now have the first media casualty of the Zimmerman/Martin incident. NBC has fired a producer for creating a misleading edit of Zimmerman’s 911 call that aired in the Today show.
Zimmerman actually said, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.” When the dispatcher asks him for a description, and asks the suspect’s race, he said, “He looks black.”
The the tape was edited to portray him saying, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black."
Good. This situation is ugly enough without deliberately muddying the waters.
Back to Martin’s cell phone, I wonder if the Sanford police thought to check it for pictures, video or texts pertinent to the case. If not, there is indeed a whiff of Mayberry in the air.