We have a lot of companies who have sent our manufacturing and production jobs overseas to China, because they are happy to work for pennies a day, while the Corporate execs rake in big paychecks and and expand the divide between rich and poor. Corporate execs’ pay has gone up 400% since 1970 (Source: MSNBC). If a large-scale war broke out that consumed all of China, it would suddenly become too costly and dangerous to not ship our jobs back to the US, where they belong. There’s a lot of jobs in China, and there’s a lot of unemployed people here. Do the math.
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Nice prioritization of American jobs over huge losses of life. Well done.
Yes. A massive civil war in China would result in an enormous death toll, and “jobs!” isn’t a good enough justification for that. Not only that, all that would happen is that the jobs in question get sent to the next most low paying country, not America. So it fails even on that level.
What a great idea! Let’s you and him fight.
:rolleyes:
Sounds like a win/win to me. We get cheap products and they get jobs they are happy to do for ‘pennies a day’.
Why would ‘large-scale war’ break out in China? What do you suppose would be the result if it did? Do you imagine that if there was some sort of civil war in China that this would automatically bring all those good low wage manufacturing jobs back to the US? Why? Why do they belong here in any case? Do we have some sort of lock on all manufacturing and production jobs in the world?
(I’m of course leaving aside the fact that our economy would take a huge hit if China went tits up, as well as the effects on our trade not only with China but with several other countries that would be effected by civil war in China, since even glossing over that there are some, um, rather glaring holes in your OP)
Americans are not willing to work for ‘pennies a day’. The math seems to indicate that if those jobs weren’t in China they would be in some other country that has workers willing to work at those levels. If by some chance every other country with low wage labor on earth also broke out in civil war at the same time and that manufacturing came back to the US then most likely we STILL wouldn’t get all those jobs back, since what we’d actually do is automate. And you, I and everyone else would pay more for goods and services but still not have all those gods given Amurican Jobs™ done by Real Amurican Workers(aar)…they’d be done by machines.
Why do we constantly seem to be getting bombarded by these kinds of threads? Do the math…
-XT
Jesus, what’s with all the anti-China threads lately ?
Well, you start one and an hour later you’re pissed off again.
Following the OP’s logic, doesn’t that seems like a good reason to have a revolution in the US instead? It’s not like China is the only poor country with excess labor.
Is there even a flicker of revolt on China’s horizon anyway? If there is, the state must be hiding the news quite effectively.
The war thing is presented as an idea of a situation that could make it too costly to manufacture there. If you’ve got a better idea, I’d love to hear it.
You seem to be ruling out an American first-strike thermonuclear holocaust on China. Why?
I missed the edit window, but here’s another thing. Should I take my Information Technology industry certifications with me to China so I can live on pennies a day like a rice farmer?
Of course, a revolution in China might succeed, and establish democracy, followed (after a painful period of fixing up the war-damage) by more-broadly-shared prosperity and even more amazing economic development.
Be careful what you wish for.
A better idea for what? What exactly is the goal here? To bring back low wage high volume jobs to the US ‘where they belong’?? Easy…convince American workers to work those jobs for low wages and no benefits. Done. Or, conversely, convince the American consumer to pay more (a LOT more) for the same cheap goods they are currently getting.
I don’t know…does that seem to be a good idea to you? It has no really compelling allure for me. That seems like a life changing decision that you really shouldn’t ask people on a message board advice on before leaping in…
-XT
Yes, let’s have a war that might turn nuclear and result in decimation of two of the world’s largest countries, let’s have a war that makes the Ostfront look like child’s play. :rolleyes::dubious:
China has a growing population of young unmarried men a portion of which are unlikely to ever marry. This is often a favorable precondition to warfare and social unrest.
Soon, Qin. Be patient. Your Majesty’s Restoration is at hand.
It is also a favorable precondition for . . . something that seems to give the Chinese government the willies, and not in a good way. Though they are getting better . . .
Your Majesty’s Restoration? 