Well, keep up making those assertions about the President and “evil”. See just how far it gets y’all in the public discourse, and in convincing moderates that your position on things is more valid than the position offered by the President, and/or the Republican Party. <smh>
You know better than that. Or should, after - what was it, 7 or 8? - charade parties your guys held trying to make something stick. You do know that’s what it was, don’t you?
He did, by helping make it clear to anyone bothering to judge for themselves what was really going on there.
That has to be a new world’s record for lamest attempt at both-sides-ism.
Your guys certainly didn’t act like that was the purpose, and they even admitted it on occasion. That’s something else you know.
They didn’t want to participate in what it really was, which was not oversight.
It really is time for you to face who is responsible for the situation you purport to deplore. By supporting and voting for the *one *party that is guilty of habitual misconduct, the responsibility falls on you. When are you going to accept it?
You could try being part of the solution, yanno.
Casually sneering at mere factuality doesn’t get you far with the majority of the electorate.
What’s a “moderate” in our current context? Someone midway between Obama and Trump? Someone who would like Obama better if he just had a sukoshi bit more of the ignorant lout?
A moderate is someone stupid enough to support Trump but smart enough not to embarrass himself trying to defend Trump in public.
Yeah, we should just stop telling the truth since it does no good.
I don’t admire Richard Nixon as a person or as a President, but I can still applaud his role in creating the EPA.
I don’t admire Donald Trump as a person or as a President, but I stand ready to applaud any measures he may take that end up having a positive effect on the economy and security of the USA.
If “moderates” decide to reject that viewpoint, then that’s their privilege. But I would guess that common sense might be of more use to moderates than you may, perhaps, be imagining.
Because that was his job. He could have been really safe sitting on his couch in Virginia, but that’s not a good way to do that job.
Item: documents related to Mike Flynn’s security clearances and evaluation were requested of the Trump White House. Request denied, for reasons. Knee-jerk reaction: they are hiding something. Carefully reasoned reaction: they are hiding something big.
Speculation: Chaffetz has a clue, he doesn’t want to be on the spot wherein he must alienate and annoy the Trumpenprole. The trajectory of the shit will intercept the locus of the fan, and he don’t want to be anywhere near it.
“Geronimo!”
I think we’ll appeal to moderates just fine, even if we miss a few “moderates” like yourself. You’re more concerned with the manners and appearances of politics than the facts - if the majority of the citizenry is like you in that regard, we are all screwed anyway. So we might as well go with the truth.
Yesterday I noticed a sudden flurry of bipartisanship. It looked like Cummings and Chaffetz actually doing their job. Together!
My thinking now is that Chaffetz has cleared the deck to separate from the President by announcing his planned separation from the national party/TBD resignation. It only helps his eventual run in Utah to go back to being the straight shooting home town hero, and he may actually try his darnedest to get Flynn and anyone else he can before he leaves. Suddenly he’s back in the media, strutting his stuff and catching the bad guys. He looked like it felt good.
Governor of Utah may be as far as he gets after this, but maybe that’s what he wants.
Your problem stems from the belief that you have distilled this “truth”. Of course, what most moderates like me know is that there is no “truth” when it comes to politics. What there are are competing opinions, based upon differing value judgments and assumptions. A cogent argument put forth by a politician includes efforts to convince me that the value judgment and/or assumed starting point for the argument being made is better than that being used by the other side. But simply pointing at everyone else and saying, “You’re WRONG!”, then repeating that assertion in increasingly louder tones, without conceding that, <gasp>, they might have some valid points now and again does little to convince anyone of anything.
Mind you, this isn’t a game only played by the Left. The Right does it, too. Indeed, for some 20 years now, the Right has been doing it quite loudly, so much so that those who identify as solid Republican have trouble not accepting what they say as “truth”. If your goal is to get solid Democrats feeling the same about what you’re saying, then you may be on the way to success. But I have long felt that one of the advantages the Democratic Party had was that it generally eschews such silliness in favor of rational discourse. Tends to make me listen to their commentary much more often. That’s starting to be less and less true, and it leaves me in a very uncomfortable position, because it’s reducing the list of acceptable choices. :mad:
You used scare quotes around the wrong word. Again, I’m not worried about “moderates” like you, I’ll stick to information, facts, and truth, which is an objective thing that actually exists, no matter what relativist nonsense you want to put forth.
Name a “truth” that you wish to assert here. Something that is objectively, verifiably true. Let’s see if I’m wrong about my assumptions.
Curious timing that he needs emergency surgery for a 12 year old injury that will require him to be out of Washington for a month.
Getting a similar vibe to when O’Reilly went on a sudden vacation, and never came back.
It reminds me a little of John Major’s sudden wisdom tooth emergency in 1990. It just so happened to keep him from having to openly support Margaret Thatcher in the leadership race.
That’s some damned good irony, right there.
Yeah, and look where it got us.
So you prefer to act like the same sort of spoiled children? God help us, then. 
I don’tprefer it, as such, but it does appear to be what captures the “moderates.” So, yes, God help us.
He wants the governorship simply as a stepping stone to the presidency. I have no doubt he has Presidential ambitions.