There is a big difference between thinking something should be legal and being willing to break the current law.
I had this cool t-shirt once, on the front it said : In god we trust. On the back it said: Man made beer, god made weed.
Why alcohol is legal and pot isn’t is beyond me.
But still, it’s against the law. Damn.
Here’s a song that reflects my thoughts exactly on this topic. The irony of it all - The streets.
Here are the lyrics.
Exactly right. IMO, this is one reason why the whole argument that “If alcohol is legal, then marijuana should be legal too!” is misguided. A lot of people drink and enjoy alcohol without any intention of getting drunk. In contrast, when people smoke marijuana in a non-medicinal capacity, it is with the specific purpose of getting stoned.
Now, I’m not trying to argue for or against anti-marijuana laws, as that would merit a whole 'nuther discussion. Rather, I think the point is that there is a major and relevant distinction between the two, which is why they are treated differently by the law.
As Drastic_Quench has mentioned, alcohol is really easy to make at home, and I know more people who’d have trouble keeping a marijuana plant alive but would be a good beer/mead/wine brewer within the first couple of tries. We occasionally make mead at the house, and it’s really incredibly simple; beer is only slightly more complex because there are a couple more steps to follow. Plant cultivation, however, is slightly more complex and requires a little more know-how in order to do it properly.
Historically, just about everyone was making some sort of alcoholic beverage, and throughout Europe, these beverages were for everyday thirst quenching because the water wasn’t safe to drink with the sanitation procedures used back then. Of course, most of the time, the alcoholic beverage was watered down if it were of a stronger sort, but some people in the middle ages spent more time being at least a little sloshed in order to consume enough liquids for the day, while others with a greater tolerance for alcohol or a lesser need for drinking to hydration would not feel the effects as readily. Tea and coffee in Asia were used for the same purpose (to prevent/reduce dehydration), as boiling would reduce the chance of the drinker getting a foodborne illness from their beverages. Once tea and coffee reached Europe and became more available, people began to switch over to these beverages for daytime consumption; some eschewed alcohol altogether, becoming what we now refer to as “teetotalers”.
BTW, am I the only person around here who has never actually enjoyed getting stoned?
It’s a form of social convention, and thus not inherently logical. You don’t necessarily need or want to wear clothes, but it would be foolish to think you’d be treated the same if you showed up naked.
This seems decidedly silly. Buy some cider, let it stand and see if you can avoid making alcohol. Plenty of people choose to buy it rather than make it, but that’s simply a reflection of how convenient alcohol is in modern society.
The corporate profits pale in comparison to the tax revenues.
People who are subject to random drug testing at their jobs are likely to be particularly peeved to find people smoking marijuana around them.
Strongly disagree here. I’ve never had an alcohol-free booze that was worth a second sip. A glass of wine with a meal is a totally different matter. A glass of single malt is entirely about the taste - if I were drinking just to get drunk, I could drink something way less expensive.
Does anybody smoke dope for the flavour? Seriously. When it becomes legal, it’s one of the interesting questions - will an industry spring up, like with pipe tobacco or cigars, where one can get wine dipped, brooked, flavoured, blends, fine cut, shag, etc., etc.?
Dude, you’re just in the wrong country - come up to Canada where it’s still illegal, but hardly any one cares if you spark a fatty.
I’ve seen the same thing. A friend insisted on buying me a ginger ale, so it would look like I had some kind of mixed drink. He actually said it was kind of embarrassing that I wasn’t drinking anything. I was stunned into silence so I didn’t follow up on how he could have such a crazy reaction.
Ever been to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc?
I don’t drink myself so I don’t know what drinkers are thinking (or what thinkers are drinking!), but I imagine it might be kind of like ordering dessert. If I’m having dinner with a friend and she doesn’t want dessert, I’d feel a bit awkward eating my cheesecake while she just sat there. Only a BIT awkward, not enough to stop me if I was really in the mood for cheesecake, but some people dwell on these things more than others: “Am I a pig for wanting dessert? I did want to lose some weight, maybe I should have passed. Is she on a diet? Am I a jerk for eating dessert in front of her while she’s on a diet? Is she getting bored watching me eat? Maybe I should eat faster, but I don’t want to look like a pig…”
The only people I’ve known who seemed REALLY bothered by my not drinking were people with drinking problems themselves, but I can see how an ordinary moderate drinker might feel a little uncomfortable just because they were having something you weren’t having. But that’s the sort of thing people should keep to themselves. Your friends should have ordered the drink if that’s what she wanted or not ordered it if she just couldn’t stand to, but either way she shouldn’t have expressed any annoyance to you.
As tax revenues are a percentage of corporate profits, I don’t see how your statement is mathmatically possible.
I think what Xema meant was not the taxation of corporate profits, but the taxation on the product itself. That occurs before (or, perhaps more accurately, independently of) corporate profits.
Making “good” alcoholic beverages can be a pain. It can also be an enjoyable hobby. I don’t think that many boozers want to drink rotten cider. To make palatable hard cider you have to do more than let it sit.
Same goes for pot. You can just toss some seeds on the ground, wait a couple months, then harvest some barely smokable weed, but for the “good” stuff you need to care for the plants. But then you have a product that is way superior to even the most desirable alcohol product.
Mmm, little red hairs, white little crystals flaking off, somewhat sticky, a slight tinge of honey smell. Mmmmmmmmm licks lips
Right. As nashiitashii has noted above, this used to be exceedingly common. Now not so much due to many convenient ways to buy the stuff.
Man, you are drinking the wrong booze!
I’ve been to Saudi Arabia, where booze is like pot in the US - illegal and readily available.
You are right.
No, I’ve done the whole booze routine, from beers and ales through top notch scotch (heh, I made a rhyme).
You’re smoking the wrong dope. See mswas’ post, above.
Here’s the deal. Unless you are the designator driver (which sucks), it’s a little weird to have someone who doesn’t drink at a party where everyone is drinking. It would be the same if you and some friends are doing bong hits or lines of coke and you have the one guy who doesn’t participate. It creeps people out. These substances are mood and behavioral altering and the non-drinker/stoner/cokehead is on a noticably different wavelength than everyone else. People wonder why this person would show up to a party with alchohol and drugs but not use them.
How people react to these different drugs is totally dependent on the people themselves. Pot and coke, however, are illegal. It is inconsiderate and rude to bring them to a party where the host does not want them.