Why is baseball considered the "thinking man's sport"?

How do you know that?

It is a fair assumption. It is good form that if you ask a question and have it answered that you at the very least acknowledge it. i’m sure if he’d been back he’d have said ta!

Maybe not. Maybe you’ve answered his questions so thoroughly he’s gobsmacked. :wink:

Soccer teams generally don’t just hoof the ball up the field and hope for the best. When’s the last time you watched a professional soccer match?

Baseball was once a thinking mans sport.

Then came the designated hitter.

Today. Happens everytime someone takes a long goal kick.

You STILL want to give me Estrada for Porcello?

I admit Estrada was sensational today. I will be happy to be proven wrong. I thought Porcello was fine on Saturday though.

Yup. I’d make the trade. I think long term.

But if Porcello was a Blue Jay, Jose Bautista’s home run total would plummet.

How is that different than soccer?

I think labor disputes and the resulting strikes and lockouts really killed baseball. It all happened at a time when Michael Jordan was making basketball the nation’s favorite sport.

It shattered a lot of illusions for me. Its not that baseball was ever sacred but for me concepts like “love of the game” and “good sportsmanship” come from baseball. I used to feel that baseball built character and teamwork in a way that other spots did not but after the labor disputes caused half a dozen strikes/lockouts in 20 years, it was hard to pretend that baseball was about much more than money. If that was the case, I might as well watch something more exciting like football.

I feel like baseball more than any of the other major sports is skills based. Almost every position is skill based. A great athlete still has a great advantage but a small guy with good mechanics and technique can still hit a line drive through a gap or throw a ball from anywhere in the infield to anywhere else in the infield. Running a double play doesn’t require great athletic ability.

What nation are you referring to? Basketball isn’t the USA’s favorite sport by any measure, nor is it more popular than baseball.

The most popular spectator sport in America is football, at least if one goes by revenue, which is a pretty good way of averaging out all the variables of attendance, TV viewership, etc. MLB is the second most popular league of any kind by revenue (it’s first in total attendance, but, IMHO, a bad way of measuring baseball versus football.) The NBA is well behind MLB, by a very wide margin.

To my admitted surprise, even if you counted all the revenue for college basketball, basketball still does not catch MLB.

I mean, your feeling about baseball are yours, but the idea the strike “killed baseball” is rather dramatically at odds with baseball’s high attendance and revenue figures.

You need to watch the highlight reels/plays of the week.
Maybe the easy grounder to 2nd/short type doesn’t but you need to see what it takes to pull off some of the “what the hell did I just see?” plays.

huh? you can’t leave soccer alone for a minute. The whole appeal is that a goal takes only a few seconds to score…potentially from nothing.

There is a tale, possibly apocryphal, of a Man. United fan listening to the 1999 European cup final on the radio. The clock reaches the 89th minute, Man U. are 1-0 down to Bayern as he drives into the Blackwall tunnel. 2 minutes of radio silence later he emerges from the tunnel to hear that Man U. are now 2-1 in the lead as the final whistle is blown.

Not when Jordan was playing.

Not when Jordan was playing.

Am I the only one that thinks that baseball declined for decades after the strikes?

I’ve walked away from plenty of soccer games for a hour and come back to the same score. I cant think of many baseball games where this is true.

1998 is the only year that Jordan played where the NBA Finals got a higher Nielson rating than the World Series. And I seriously doubt the NBA has ever made more revenue than MLB, what with half the number of games.
(Not counting 1994, obviously)

When Jordan was playing the NBA was* less* popular as measured by attendance or revenue than it is now. If you don’t believe me, look it up. The NBA’s highest attendance season was several years after Jordan retired for good.

There has never been a time, ever, when basketball even began to rival football or baseball in terms of attendance or revenue. Not before Jordan, during his career, or after. He certainly helped the NBA’s popularity but the effect of one man can be rather exaggerated.

Probably not, but then, lots of people think things that aren’t correct.

It’s just math. Attendance and revenues are as high as ever. The sport is probably now more profitable than it has ever been. The only thing you can say about is that’s bad, really, is that football is more popular, but that’s been true for a very long time now.

If you are regularly walking away from a football game for an hour then your opinion can safely be ignored.

Given your oft-stated distain for the sport, and your stated predisposition to walk away from games within 15 minutes of the start (sidebar: how much play do you get to see in the first 15 minutes of the average NFL telecast) … why do you keep coming back?

Am I the only one who senses **Damuri Ajashi ** may actually has a deep seated affinity, possibly even a psychological need, for the sport which has too long been repressed?