ok, by now I am quite confused. What God is it you believe in Scylla? Did he ever do anything, or say anything to us? If so, where is this described?
Now I have this image of the Pharaoh putting Jehovah in an armlock and talking like an old-style movie mobster; “Okay, Jehovah, here’s what it’s gonna be like, see ? Nice Heaven you have; be a shame if something happened to it . . .”
It only looks like that because you don’t understand it. It’s easier to live with your eyes closed, because then all you see is misunderstanding.
They wouldn’t exist if you didn’t have a craving for Cheetos, soft drinks, greasy steaks, deodorants and all the other bad chemical things in life. You think our planet is the first planet that this has ever happened to? It’s the grand life equation, buddy, and no man is worth his salt who is not willing to lay down his life for a greater cause. Unfortunately not all men are willing to live in this Hell of an Earth so God has to have his followers here on Earth trick you into believing that the world is not really as crazy as it really is.
He does this through promoting science as truth and religion as silliness. He had the church enforce the idea that the world is flat and revolves around the Sun, which men of science immediately disproved. He had the church say the Earth is only 6,000 years old, while scientists discovered bones supposedly millions of years old. He had religion say that some dude stuck two of every animal on a boat, while men of science split the atom. Hands down science prevailed, and our history and anything our ancestors ever said were whiped away from the common memory of man.
God can’t command all the pollutants in the world from wreaking the havoc that they do upon our bodies. What he can do is cause the energy fields of our planet to change, pulling apart all the crazy and messed up chemicals in our world and turning them into something a little more benign. If you made all the right choices in this life and in your last you will most likely live through this great cleansing period. There won’t be so many chemicals in your body that breach your own body’s energy fields and tamper with them, causing cancers and boils and sores and all that bad stuff. These are most likely the meek people, though, and they shall inherit the Earth.
Only because those like yourself will refuse to lay down your life, with all your evil thoughts, and will insist on being a sore on humanity’s backside. God will do what he will have to do to ensure that the new golden age will arrive, and that the ways of the old world, our world, are whiped off the face of the Earth.
Then why don’t you also see it as your duty to go tear down all the soft drink factories and hazardous chemical plants that spread their dangerous toxins? Why don’t you see it as your duty to spread awareness about our local water supplies and why it is important to keep them clea? Why don’t you feel the urge to tell people how to live healthier lives? These are the things that cause diseases.
You don’t understand how to run a planet, much less a Universe, so how would YOU know what is good and rational? You insist on being bitter, you insist on hating God for your plight and that is your choice I suppose. I don’t believe you’re a good and rational person, however, and you better believe you’re going to encounter some resistance with this fight. You may even lose… hehehehe. 
Sorry, this was meant to be a quote. I meant the leadership of Egypt did some things that forced God’s hand, so he had to kill all the firstborn to prevent some more evil shit later on down the road…
I don’t “expect it to” follow the scientific method. I just won’t call it science if it doesn’t. I will call it stories. If it is a precurser to science, then it is by definition, not science.
Jesus and Jehovah are metaphors?
Well one can use the scientific method to find out things about our world, like how the Electric Universe theory is correct and is the road down which science should be led.
Thor drank from the ocean and lowered it a few inches? Well we did have two massive hurricanes suck up the oceans quite a bit and create our ice caps, from which the sodium in the sea water was pulled up into the ionosphere due to its conductive properties. This would have lowered the oceans several inches, and would have filled the sky with so much lightning and thunder that the people would have believed it was Thor commanding his lightning…
A giant lightning bolt scarring the face of Mars? The Valles Marineris is a likely candidate. The entire planet shows evidence of electrical scarring.
Can we communicate through electric currents, Ark of the Covenant-style? Perhaps, the burning bush may not have been burning with the combustible fire but glowing with the green electric fire, or St. Elmo’s. There is an area of our brain that when stimulated causes some people to hear voices as real as if a person were speaking to them. Electric currents travel our nerves and create storms of thought in our brains.
Pyramids are a combination of the words “pyr” and “mid” which when put together CAN mean “fire in the middle.” The green electric fire is a real element, and with a gold capstone on the top, the Great Pyramid would have been a giant lightning rod. Is there a reason why it was cut to such perfect dimensions?
God is drill sergeant to the universe.
Supreme being, creator.
It is described all around us, in the fact of our very existence, in everything we see, and everything that ever was and ever will be, from a flea to a chickadee, to a little birdy in a tree.
It is described in our DNA and in horses hay, in the gas we pass and a little girl’s laugh. In a house, in a mouse.
I see it here and there and everywhere. You could see it to in kind if only you would choose to be blind.
Well, in that one broad stroke you’ve just removed Newton, and Da Vinci’s work from the realm of science.
Nice job there.
heh.
I’m not “living with my eyes closed”; typical obnoxious religious patronization.
GENETIC DISEASES, not poor diet; pay attention.
As far as we can tell, yes.
Well, it is, and if he existed he’d be right about that, if nothing else.
Hardly; most Americans are creationists ( and therefore, most Americans are fools ).
Of course he could; he’s a god.
Are you taking your medication ?
The meek shall inherit the earth—one meter wide and two meters long. —Robert A. Heinlein.
Because I like what they make. I’d prefer to make them safer, not tear them down. Soft drinks taste good, and unlike religion they don’t start wars or excuse tyranny; you don’t see Coke strafing the neighborhoods of Pepsi drinkers. Chemical plants produce many useful things, as opposed to the basic uselessness of religion.
Because many people already are.
For one thing, I’m don’t go around demanding that people worship me, or commit genocide in my name. Right away, that puts me far above God on a moral scale. For another, like most people I can think of many, many ways the world could be better made; that makes me a better world-designer than God, assuming I had the power. It would be hard to do worse by accident, after all.
Oh, I probably will; the majority of humanity are either fools evil, or insane, as far as I’m concerned. Your gloating smirk brings that to mind; not that I expect anything but malice from the religious.
It’s hard to imagine what would be more evil than that, not to mention that God could have stopped without killing.
No, that just makes God the Supreme Thug. “I’m right 'cause I’ve got the power, and you don’t !”
Of course it is; we do all the suffering and striving, he does the smirking, sneering and torture.
No, I can’t, and neither can you. There’s nothing to see; anything you think you see is delusionary, assuming you really do see anything.
You keep using that word. . . .
I have already demonstrated that this claim is wholly false, yet you repeat it. How many others of your ideas are demonstrably wrong, yet you continue to repeat them?
Well obviously he can’t, he’s subject to the same forces of nature as the rest of us, he’s just a lot more powerful and smarter. He’s not omnipotent, that’s a myth
And YOU pay attention. What we do in one life will carry on to our next life. I always hear people say something like “oh this will never happen in my life time, maybe in my children’s life time,” but what the hell do you think happens to you when you die? You cease to exist? Hell no, your soul wanders around trying to find a suitable womb with a sperm and egg to grow into. If your soul was mangled because in your previous life you enjoyed being a jackass, then that’s going to carry on into your next life, especially if your parents enjoyed being jackasses as well.
As far as we can tell, yes, but it’s a very old Universe. Also, it’s very big. If you get to thinking how life would be run in the Universe, you kind of have to see that life is able to continue on by creating it on other planets. If you’re a creator, it is your responsibility to protect the grand life equation from assholes that would try to fire a nuke at your planet out of spite. People get mad at God all the time because they didn’t want to have to sacrifice their life, or because they feel as if they’ve been had, but somebody has to do it. If everybody had it all figured out, who the hell would want to go mine the coal and dirty up their lungs?
You’re right. Religion IS silly as hell. It’s a system of control, making sure that you don’t go and start asking probing questions. Not everybody can be allowed to figure it all out, because if they did then they would realize the POWER. Everybody wants to utilize the forces of nature, whether they know it or not, but not everybody is worthy of it. This is why God keeps things calm by telling us we don’t need to worry ourselves over these things, because he already is.
There are evil people out there, who would harness these forces for their own simple pleasures. Wouldn’t you like to be able to force choke that tech support guy who can’t help you with your call and put you on hold for 5 minutes just to tell you he can’t help you? There are twisted people in the world just looking to get over on everyone else any which way they can and given the right knowledge and tools there’d be nothing you could do to stop them. THIS is why religion exists.
Sorry if you CAN’T understand it, but the world WAS created. This is how life continues on, but once again you have to understand that the regular Joe can’t be allowed to know these things, because then they get to figuring out how it all works. In our day and age, as unrestricted as humanity is, we’ve been allowed to figure out far more than can safely be allowed. It is of no consequence though, there will be nothing we can do about it when we eventually do see how our world works. We think lightning is made inside a cloud. Hehhehehehe. 
But he could not. The Egyptian leadership understoof fully well the forces of nature, and they set a dangerous precedent by trying to allude God and control the Earth. Here’s a picture of what one artist saw as the top of Tower of Babel:
Remember Genesis 11:4? “The top whereof may reach to heaven”. These men HATED God so much they wanted to fire an arrow at God. The top of the tower looks like a warhead, the top was meant to reach heaven, the men wanted to fire an arrow at God… can you see why the average Joe, such as yourself, cannot be allowed to know the nature of all things? You might get spiteful and try to fire a warhead at God, heaven, and all the people of that world out of jealousy.
Then that’s when you have to choose: what tastes good to you or what is good for you. The 800-lb man loves Big Mac’s, and can eat them until he goes blind and has to get his legs cut off because of his diabetes and so on. Wouldn’t he have been better of never touching the damn things to begin with? He couldn’t help himself, and so he suffers because of HIS actions.
And nothing is getting done about it. Our water is still being polluted, more than ever. You really don’t seem to care about all these things though. You’ll leave it to the OTHER people to take action for you, the minority that is usually brushed aside because they can’t afford to lobby as well as the big businesses. I’m sure you even regard this people with disdain. Can you see how you’re not even helping yourself? It sounds like you’re waiting for someone to swoop down and take care of all these things for you.
I don’t believe it does. The “because many people already are” comment tells me what kind of God you would be if you had the power. The problems you see with our world are here because our world is nearing the end of it’s lifespan. Like I said, worlds are born and start of young and fresh, grow old and eventually die. You cannot even comprehend how our world was made, so I doubt you could think of a better way our world could be.
Does “pyr” not mean fire, and “mid” not mean middle? Would a gold capstone, as some already believe it was, not make the pyr-mid a lightning rod? Was the pyr-mid not cut to some very specific dimensions?
Man, and while I’m at it: has the green electric fire not been proven to exist?
“Mid” does not mean middle in the language of the people who built the pyramids (Egyptians) who appear to have used the word pimar or in the language of the people who first described the pyramids in languages we could read (Greek). As noted, the original word did not even have the syllable in it–that came to English because a particular Greek declension (that we have shortened) happened to make it into the word that the Romans borrowed and we copied. Your method of etymology determines that God is a morass of water-logged peat, because the word God translates to Bog in Polish.
And while all the pyramids were cut to some specific dimensions, (they did have architects in those days), the dimensions were nothing like the weird super-fine ratios oriented exactly at different constellations that a few nutcases have proposed. Given that there are at least 80 known pyramids in Egypt, scattered across the landscape in a profusion of attitudes and styles, (with at least one lopsided model at Dahshur), it is not legitimate to talk about the “specific dimensions” of “the pyramid.”
Putting gold on top of a pyramid would not make it a lightning rod; it might make it a lightning target. However, with no ground wire, the first lightning strike that hit a gold cap would have either melted the gold or blown it off the pyramid.
So you have a false etymology working in cooperation with false history mixed with bad science simply to make some odd claim about ancient monuments that is unsupported by any statement you have made and refuted by all linguistics, history, engineering, and science.
It is not looking good for your arguments on this one.
I am to say that my view of god is right.
The reason I entered this thread is because many here are using “Theism” as a substitute for “not thinking for yourself”, which to me is equivalent to "shirking your responsibility for moral choices.
Many religious people are indeed holier-than-thou loudmouths who will happily get in your business and tell you what is and isn’t right (more the latter than the former). I think they’re idiots; not because they believe in God, but because they think belief or non-belief in God can be successfully imposed on others. The tragic history of mankind shows the folly of that belief, but that does not mean there isn’t any good at all in the idea of religion.
I could worry myself to death every day over the correctness of my version of morality, in which case I’d likely succumb to the temptation of simply adopting an external rulebook. I have, in the course of my life, come to the conclusion that I need to be responsible for my actions; belief in God helps me to resolve my actions, but it is not the primary reason for the things I do. Thus, I have no qualms about picking and choosing what makes sense to me from the Bible (which also requires a responsible understanding of what that book is); ultimately it’s my life, right?
And a good thing too. If this evil shit that didn’t happen had been piled on top of that which did, it would have been just too much.
Reading that back, I probably should have used different language. Atheism does not have a “flaw” because of this, it is simply a reason why I personally would find it difficult to adopt.
Going to the baseball game provides a comfort, as does eating a well-cooked meal and a one-night-stand with a supermodel. These I doubt you would poo-poo as quickly, particularly if that’s really Naomi Watts giving you the eye across the bar.
The point is even illegal narcotics provide some comfort, which is obviously something we recognize. Of course, the personal cost of drug addiction far outweighs the transitory benefits. If your arguing the price for belief in God is too steep to pay for this comfort, I’m not sure I strictly agree. Belief in God can damage a person (fundamentalism rears its ugly head again), but I don’t think it necessarily damages you. Unlike Naomi Watts, who personally I think is a bit of a whack job:)
Good one tom, I know you have a bone to pick with me but it’s ok.
Pyr, pyro, pyromaniac, pyroclastic cloud. Mid… damn it just means middle. Someone threw the pyr in there for a reason. The wide base of the pyr-mid would have automatically grounded the massive structure. After the fall of the Egyptian leadership that God was at war with, subsequent generation used the massive temples as their tombs to disguise the true nature of these structures.
We already know these ancient people had an understanding of the electric force. Baghdad batteries, the heiroglyphs that look surprisingly like ancient light bulbs, these heiroglyphs in Abyddos. Craaaaazy things were going on back in the day Tom, do you deny this??? We STILL don’t fully understand lightning with BILLION dollar satellites up in space, yet we were able to split the atom 60 years ago?
Wisen up tom!