No, child porn!
… I liked it.
Assertion nothing - those tits are only an hour and a half old. We are thus all criminals!
Say goodbye to your testicles, boys.
We all knew the risks, and should have gotten to know Shot From Guns and her parents and friends first before sticking our clicks on anything.
Hey now - any women that look at them are equally culpable.
Wrong. You haven’t been paying attention, have you?
No, women don’t go for that kind of thing. We just enjoy enabling men who want to do it.
There’s nothing I enjoy more than a good 10-year-old. Scotch, that is.
If there is wiggle room for murder, I don’t understand why there can’t be wiggle room for something like statutory rape. Its not like we are asking you to trust the guy when he says he didn’t know. We can set the bar as high as you want.
If you were to ask me if we should allow the defense to someone who had sex with a 7 year old I would say we should allow the defense to the same extent we allow a self defense claim to someone who shot a bound and gagged 7 year old in the back of the head. Sure he can try and I guess it gives him some wiggle room but…
Dudes, let’s confess, we really want to fuck underage girls and get away with it. Diogenes the Cynic saw right through our games.
What’s this about underage girls?
nevermind
You know, I’m wondering what will happen in 8 years when Diogenes 10-year old is 18? Will he be running background checks on all her dates to make sure the young men are 18 also? If not (gasp) his daughter could potentially commit statutory rape.
First of all, in many places a 17 year old is free to have sex with anyone they want and certainly someone aged 18-19 can almost everywhere. You are mistaking what you consider gross with something illegal.
Second of all, “I don’t know any” is a very small sample size. I don’t know any American Samoan people but I am pretty sure they exist.
Here is a picture of Ali Lohan. She is 15 in that photo.
The model in this advertisement was 23 when it was shot (mildly NSFW).
Here is Russian Singer Oksana Pochepa (possible NSFW but even less so). She is 23 in this photo, I believe. She is involved with 50+ year olld Mel Gibson. Feel free to call it gross but it’s not illegal.
The fact is that there are girls who are 15-16 who look like they are 18-22 or even older and girls who are in their early 20s who look a lot younger. Ask anyone who has ever had to check IDs for cigarettes (guilty as charged many, many years ago).
As for the OP, if a guy says “I didn’t know,” I think that in and of itself is not enough. However if a guy meets a girl in a place where older people are supposed to be (a bar) and he happens to see her ID when she is showing it to the bartender and it says she is 19 and she claims to be 19, if he takes her home and finds out she is actually 15, I don’t know that a crime was committed unless it was by the parents of the girl whose daughter was out hanging out in bars, drinking and going home with men instead of doing her damn homework.
If the same guy met the same girl outside her High School when she was leaving for the day, that’s a lot different, I concede. It’s not just to look older, but the circumstances. It’s why cases should not be in a vaccum and all to often, we want to put all of them in one box labeled ‘sexual predator.’
As for the sprdometer analogy, many courts will throw out a speeding ticket if you can prove that the speedometer was broken and get it fixed. Also, if you operate a motor car, you have an expectation of maintaining it, including a great many things that can get you a citation if they are not maintained. Maybe you should know intimate details of your spouse but for better or worse, a sexual partner is often not held to the same scrutiny.
As of now, ignorance is no excuse in these cases. I happen to think that’s ridiculous and unfair in a sizable minority of these situations.
Given that he’s consistently returned the subject to “adult male, young girl”, I don’t actually think he’s worried about it. He certainly gives the impression of thinking it’s either far more serious or far more common (or both) for males to get away with having sex with teen girls.
To be fair, I think half the country kinda scratched their heads when they sent that relatively hot 30 year old teacher to jail for having sex with that teenage boy.
I recently caught a re-run of “The Guardian”. The plot line saw our protagonist being seduced by a 15 year old** in a bar** after she told him she was 23. She later revealed to him she was only 15 to blackmail him. Of course it was all ok as she was actually 29, and masquerading as a kid to get free foster care for her daughter who she said was her sister…
I just watched this episode, and it was the fake-16-year-old-really-28-year-old woman who was charged with statutory rape, and she was never a bartender and there was never a fake ID involved; she was just a lonely nut who wanted to be permanently 16 so she could stay in foster care and stay in high school, where she felt safe. Plus the kid she was charged with raping had attempted to kill her so she couldn’t testify against him at his sentencing for murdering her boyfriend because he was in love with her, and the rape charges were just a ploy to excuse his attempt on her life by claiming he had “statutory rape trauma syndrome,” essentially.
So it appears that there might be another episode where the “underage bartender” storyline shows up, and it got conflated with this one. I’d like to see that episode, if you (or anybody else) can remember anything else about it…
I know. Let’s say you’re an adult, and you pick up a girl in the park one afternoon. You get her home, and it comes out that tomorrow is her 17th birthday. (You’re in a state where 17 is legal age.) D’oh! :smack: So you tell her, “Honey, you sleep on the couch, I’ll set my alarm for midnight, then come and get you.” You wake up to see the clock reading 12:20. You figure you must have slept through the alarm. So you go get her and have a wild rest of the night. But then the next morning, the clock still reads 12:20. D’oh! :smack: You just remembered the battery in it died two days ago, and you never got around to replacing it. The girl helpfully remembers seeing a working clock out in the living room read 11:15 when you went to get her; she just figured you couldn’t wait any longer. But then it turns out she was born in a different time zone … maybe. It transpires that she was born on a cross-country flight, and there’s some uncertainty about just where she was when the happy event occurred …
Tough shit. That guy shouldn’t be fucking anyone who doesn’t have wrinkles.