Is there a law on the books that says that no hair stylist/barber shall work on Sunday, except for by special appointment?
I want my hair cut. I just decided this about an hour ago. I want it done now. I am willing to pay full price for this haircut, and tip the stylist very well.
Yet, not a single barber/salon will answer their phone this evening. Granted, in the state of Colorado, you cannot sell a car on Sunday, and Liquor stores are closed. How does hair care fit in with all this?
Damnit.
So, Supercuts, Fantastic Sam’s, all of you, I hope you have a hair fire, and the smell never leaves your stores.
I’d cut it for you but, uh, it’s not one of my better skills. I don’t know why they are closed though, seems to me that Sunday would be a big day for them.
Oh, I dunno. How about the fact that we’d like a weekend day off to 1) spend time with our family and 2) get a chance to get our sanity back from dealing with demanding people like you all week (and on Saturdays)? I should NOT have days off in the offchance someone wants a haircut NOW? I don’t think so!
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Bite me and go felch a collie.
By the way, there are places open on Sundays. I used to work in one and we were NEVER busy. It wasn’t even worth my time to be there.
I’ll address each problem with your reply, and give you a label describing your error. It will help you learn why, exactly, you are wrong. This might help you in the future.
THE FEW ARE THE SAME AS THE WHOLE
I’ll begin lightly, since I doubt your ability to comprehend what I’m going to tell you here. You’ve already demonstrated that you either can’t follow a few short paragraphs well enough to keep from going off half-cocked, or you simply can’t comprehend normal, conversational english. I can’t decide which scenario I favor more.
If you had half the brain that God gave a collie, the kind that you ask me so eloquently to felch (a tired, tired attempt, which actually detracts from the strength of your argument), you would understand this situation better, as I have described it. Were I a pain in the ass customer, like you’ve obviously had to deal with, I would have called the customer service hotlines for these hair salons and raised hell to their management. Instead, I lightly gripe on a message board. No harm done. Until you pop in, with a #3 blade guard hung crosswise in your rectum.
FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE WHAT’S IMPORTANT
See, little one (and with that term, I’m measuring the amount of pit skill you’ve demonstrated thus far), the point of being a customer is that you want a service. Many customers want their service on the spot. Sometimes, as in my case, they will pay a premium for service on demand. A business without a customer cannot survive. A business with many, many customers is probably doing well.
A business that turns away customers may well not be making a sound business decision. Sometimes, the loss required to operate for that extra day is worth the mindshare gained with the customer.
Many other businesses operate on a daily basis. What is the reason that a chop shop can’t do it as well? Perhaps it is simply deeply rooted tradition. To that, I say times change.
PROOF BY LACK OF EVIDENCE
Your legs must be ridiculously strong, considering the ease with which you jumped to conclusions. I am an extremely good customer. I am fantastically patient, very fogiving, and I tip ridiculously well. Your ability to label me as a problem on the basis of this thread lends serious doubt to your credibility as both an intelligent human being, and a shrewd business person.
If YOU don’t want to work on Sundays, then YOU don’t have to work on Sundays. Have you heard of the concept of scheduling? That’s when you stagger people’s working hours to provide more coverage.
There will be someone who is willing to work on Sunday. I could give a rat’s ass whether or not it was you in particular (now that I think about this, I would rather it NOT be you.) I do know that if there were someone available to cut my hair, that person would have experienced some serious job satisfaction upon completion of my requested services.
My question, which you completely bypassed in pursuit of your somewhat disconnected ramblings, is more along the lines of: why are the SALONS closed, not whether MaryAnnQ should be forced to labor in the salt mines beyond her level of comfort.
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The chip on your shoulder must be skewing your judgement as well as your perception of the horizon.
Madam, I would sooner put my mouth to a festering pile of wombat feces than to any part of your anatomy. There’s probably less chance of ptomaine that way.
I think we’ve already covered the extreme fatigue of felch in one of my previous statements. However, since you’ve demonstrated incomprehension of other statements I’ve made, I’ll provide you a link to a good thread about it, so as to keep the subject fresh in your tiny, shrivled brain. And, for your future reference, please consult this list when attempting to use a sexual term in a derogatory fashion.
I AM THE WORLD
Again, you demonstrate either total lack of comprehension, or an inability to retain information. I said, and I quote:
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By that, I mean that the barber shops in my area are all closed. If I were that desperate, I could have called Pakistan, I’m sure. Someone must be open there.
To close, let me say that you have the attention span of an adolescent mayfly with a Nintendo and a mean caffeine habit. If you desire assistance with reading for comprehension, since the need was evidenced earlier, I recommend taking night classes at your local community college. Make sure that you call them right away, while they are on summer break. Please stay on hold till someone answers. If you get an answering machine or voicemail, make sure to tell them that you need remedial classes, since even grade school level might be too much of a challenge for you.
Mr. Cynical, honey, the last time I read a reply that impressed me as much as this one did, I posed the following question… “…will you marry me?..”
Not only would I like to propose the same to you now, but before you answer you should know that you just contributed to the reason I was able to participate in this Cecil column.
And all this time I thought there was some other reason it was so hot in The 'Pit! Somebody fan me, please!
Oh, and since we are in The 'Pit, I guess I have to flame someone, so MaryAnn… what he said. (I could never dream of doing better than that, anyway.)
Well! What can I add after such an admirable flame?
My take on this is - it’s just the way it’s always been. Everyone is used to doing it that way. Just like most places close early (i.e. 5 - 6 pm) on Sundays. (Other than grocery stores and gas stations, that is.) People want to have one day off, and Sunday’s it. And that means store managers and supervisors get to have a day off, too. What a concept!
I quit a retail job because they wanted to force me to work Sundays. Apparently a lot of people don’t want to, that’s why they were putting the push on me - they were desperate. Saturdays are “rush rush rush and get all your errands done” days, Sundays are “relax with your family and perhaps go to church if you are so inclined” days. At least in my mind they are. I quit the job that wanted to force me to work Sundays because:
1.) I worked every other damned day of the week, I wanted to have ONE frigging day that I knew was safe from work. That I could always tell my friends and family “I am always free Sunday.”
2.) And yes, I went to church.
3.) When I was hired, I TOLD them I was not available Sundays. I was hired with that understanding.
Anyway, I digress…
My guess is that not too many hair salons/barbers feel that business is big enough to warrant keeping their doors open on Sunday, and maybe they just want a frigging day off. I am also guessing that some hair salons/barber shops are not so well staffed that they could strong-arm enough of people to come in on Sundays. So I guess they figure it’s not worth the hassle.
Perhaps a mall hair salon (or a hair salon at a place like JC Penneys) might be open, if the mall is open on Sundays. Hmmm…did you look into that?
Not sure why you think it is funny Grace. I have used a flowbee for over 5 years and love it. I could never get a decent haircut before I used it. And you definately can get your haircut on Sunday. I do mine every third Sunday.
First, let me say that I give you a 9.8 (high by my standards)
Second, while it doesn’t help you now, if you have a favorite stylist/barber ask if they do after hours work and get their card.
My niece is a stylist who pays rent on her chair at the salon where she works, she has a key to the door and rights to the place 24/7. She gives her card to her regs and makes good money with private off-hours appointments. I don’t know if this is standard procedure everywhere, but it might be something to look into for future reference.
If you want a haircut on Sunday, go to a mall.
The rents are so high they can’t skip a day.
I’m sure they get time off. Most haircutters I know can’t get the space/time they want as it is, since there are more haircutters in the world than barber chairs. That’s how they put it, it’s like playing Musical Chairs just to find a full week’s work.
{{MaryAnnQ, you ignorant slut.}} Mr. Cynical
“A tired, tired attempt.” However, it was funny 20-plus years ago when Dan Ackroyd said it.
{{I’ll address each problem with your reply, and give you a label describing your error. }}
See if you can read the label on the can of whoop-ass I’m opening up for you.
{{THE FEW ARE THE SAME AS THE WHOLE }}
And you’re criticizing her grasp of English and logic?
{{If you had half the brain that God gave a collie, the kind that you ask me so eloquently to felch (a tired, tired attempt, which actually detracts from the strength of your argument), you would understand this situation better, as I have described it. }}
You’re too dumb to figure out that you needed a haircut until the realization came crashing down upon you on a Sunday evening, at which point you were shocked (shocked!) to discover that some places aren’t open on Sunday nights.
{{Were I a pain in the ass customer, like you’ve obviously had to deal with, I would have called the customer service hotlines for these hair salons and raised hell to their management. }}
Nah, that would require effort. Most pain-in-the-ass customers are lazy sacks of shit (but they do tend to get ticked off when they can’t have just what they want whenever they want it).
{{FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE WHAT’S IMPORTANT
See, little one (and with that term, I’m measuring the amount of pit skill you’ve demonstrated thus far),}}
Thanks for the clarification – from your defensive posture one might have concluded that you were talking to your penis.
{{ the point of being a customer is that you want a service. Many customers want their service on the spot. Sometimes, as in my case, they will pay a premium for service on demand. A business without a customer cannot survive. A business with many, many customers is probably doing well. }}
With insights like those, I can only assume you’re a trained economist.
{{A business that turns away customers may well not be making a sound business decision. Sometimes, the loss required to operate for that extra day is worth the mindshare gained with the customer. }}
Mindshare? What’s that, some new smellyboy-speak for goodwill?
{{Many other businesses operate on a daily basis. What is the reason that a chop shop can’t do it as well? Perhaps it is simply deeply rooted tradition. To that, I say times change. }}
They can, but most choose not to, since there are only a handful of goofballs who ever even want to get a haircut on Sunday, while most people like to have Sundays off. There’s not enough demand generally. It’s that simple – you don’t have to be Encyclopedia Brown to figure it out. Shall I type this slower to aid your comprehension? Most businesses are closed on Sunday (hell, probably most of them are closed Saturdays, too). The only businesses routinely open on Sundays are restaurants, gas stations, convenient stores, supermarkets, and department stores and other large retail outlets (maybe I forgot one or two – if so, pork yourself). If you’re hungry, for instance, or you’re out of gas, well, you need food and gas right now. Nobody (yes, I’m looking at you, Mr. Cynical) needs a haircut right this minute.
Try reaching your lawyer or accountant at his or her office on a Sunday (and a Sunday evening, yet!). Try bringing your car in for service then (even for just an oil change). Most people aren’t working on Sunday. When you have a fairly small establishment (as most hair joints are), the odds are that nobody there will be working.
{{Your legs must be ridiculously strong, considering the ease with which you jumped to conclusions. I am an extremely good customer. I am fantastically patient, very fogiving, and I tip ridiculously well. Your ability to label me as a problem on the basis of this thread lends serious doubt to your credibility as both an intelligent human being, and a shrewd business person. }}
Oh, well, if YOU say so …
{{If YOU don’t want to work on Sundays, then YOU don’t have to work on Sundays. Have you heard of the concept of scheduling? That’s when you stagger people’s working hours to provide more coverage. }}
Have you ever heard of the concept that most people like to have the same days off as their friends and family, and so having a common day off is deemed a good thing? Are you aware that working Sundays may be considered an undesirable shift, and that if they are open at all on those days that employees who don’t want to work Sundays will nevertheless be called upon to do so from time to time (perhaps most of the time)?
{{My question, which you completely bypassed in pursuit of your somewhat disconnected ramblings, is more along the lines of: why are the SALONS closed, not whether MaryAnnQ should be forced to labor in the salt mines beyond her level of comfort. }}
There’s no business for them (as she noted, although if you’d had the honesty and/or intelligence to realize this you would have had to forego your cutesy insults regarding her reading comprehension). They don’t think it’s worth their while to be open on the off chance that some smellyboy decides, all of a sudden on a Sunday night, that he would like a haircut. It’s common for most businesses to be closed on Sundays. Now that we have cleared up this deeply puzzling mystery, I can explain for you why the salons aren’t open from midnight to 4AM, either.
{{I AM THE WORLD
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By the way, there are places open on Sundays. I used to work in one and we were NEVER busy. It wasn’t even worth my time to be there.
Again, you demonstrate either total lack of comprehension, or an inability to retain information. I said, and I quote:
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Yet, not a single barber/salon will answer their phone this evening
By that, I mean that the barber shops in my area are all closed. If I were that desperate, I could have called Pakistan, I’m sure. Someone must be open there. }}
There are places open around here (Providence) on Sunday, too. Maybe you shouldn’t live in such a God-forsaken backwater if you want a lot of places open 24/7.
{{To close, let me say that you have the attention span of an adolescent mayfly with a Nintendo and a mean caffeine habit. If you desire assistance with reading for comprehension, since the need was evidenced earlier, I recommend taking night classes at your local community college. Make sure that you call them right away, while they are on summer break.}}
You mean you can’t just call the college administration offices on a Sunday night and get someone who will help you? What’s the deal with that, huh?
{{ Please stay on hold till someone answers. If you get an answering machine or voicemail, make sure to tell them that you need remedial classes, since even grade school level might be too much of a challenge for you. }}
And yet she was able to tell, from a considerable distance (a buffer zone she doubtless appreciates), that you are a pain in the ass.
What, Pig Iron, did your support group let out early?
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I was more than happy to let this just go awawy, but you just had to resurrect it.
I didn’t care to go off in the first place, and I certainly didn’t want to go off again. But, you have forced the issue.
As I originally said, moron, this was a minor rant on a message board. Very minor. Then, your lil’ friend MaryAnnQ came in, and had to take offense, and fire back with acidic statements. Of course I went off.
Where you came into the picture, I can only guess. I imagine it has something to do with a bowel movement.
You wanna play the dissecting game? Let’s dance.
First, allow me to direct you to a link above the text box you typed your drivel in. It says vB code. See, if you read up on that link, you’ll find out how to make a quotation like the big boys do. Allow me to demonstrate.
This is the only concession I’ll make. Touche.
Sure can, sparky. It says that there’s only one serving per can, though, so I’ll need a second to finish you off with.
Well, thank you, Mr. Helper. First off, how can one be too dumb to decide that their hair is too long? I’ll use you as an example, since I certainly can’t find any stupidity here.
Secondly, SOME places weren’t closed on Sunday. ALL places were closed on Sunday. I called them, see? It looks as if you’ll be needing the remedial reading classes as well.
Yes, I am. Would you like to know which specific part encited that response? If you can’t pick it out on your own, I’ll be glad to help you. See, when I use the words “we” and “like you”, those are called GENERALIZATIONS. For yor assignment, describe in detail how a generalization is different from describing the whole based upon the actions of a few. While you’re at it, call the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. foundation, and explain it to them too. They will LOVE you.
By this statement, you are agreeing with me that I am not a pain-in-the-ass customer. Your wit eludes me. Hell, your wit eludes you.
Now how could I talk to my penis? It’s been too far ensconsed in your momther’s rectum for it to hear.
With a statement like that, I can only assume that you’re a hydrocephalic.
I don’t think you understand what you’re trying to say. Please try again later.
See, Sherman, the point slips past you yet again. My question was more to the point of “do Hair Salons operate under the same odd laws that liquor stores and car dealerships do?”
Additionally, I offer to you that if most people do not want to get their hair cut on Sundays, it is more than likely the result of willingness to stay rooted in tradition. Call me extreme, but I don’t much subscribe to that. It’s like how people seem to like to go to church on Sunday. Tradition. If that’s the way you want it to be fine, but I don’t agree.
Imitation is indeed the most sincere form of flattery. However, since I read at my own pace, your rate of typing hardly matters. In fact, what you are typing hardly matters. Out of sheer kindness do I dignify you with my response.
My point exactly. The majority of salons I called were indeed located in large retail outlets. Here, we call them mini-malls. Anyway, you are saying that the vast majority of open businesses are those that provide a service to the end-user. This is the crux of my argument. You are proving my point for me, and I thank you for it.
And did I say I needed a haircut right this minute? No. I said I wanted a haircut, and was even willing to pay well for it.
Got my oil changed this morning, as a matter of fact. Thanks for the reminder to write the mileage down in my owner’s manual.
Which is why it is the perfect time to be open to the customer. If they’re not working, they have a good chance of being able to purchase your goods or services. Tell your local grocery store to close on Sundays. Ask them why not.
Most of the establishments I called were nationals. And, here’s a laugh, too! Do you realize how many of them did not have ads listed in the yellow pages?
What, do you need receipts? Witnesses? I’ve got both.
Um, yes. And, I’ve worked those shifts. And, when I decided that I didn’t want to work them anymore, I got a different job. You seem to be implying that it is MY fault that those people work in a field where undesireable shifts are a possibility.
Well, there is. If you think that I am the only person in the world who would have liked a haircut that Sunday, you’re severely deluded. And, yes, it is common for businesses to be closed on Sundays. Well, those that don’t do most of their business directly to the end-user. You have a tenuous grip on the completely obvious. The question, imp, is WHY ARE THEY CLOSED? Business is out there.
My comments regarding reading comprehension were warranted. They are in order again, in fact, but for you this time.
Would you please stop fighting my battles for me? If you’re not careful, you’ll win it for me.
Stop it, I say! I can do this myself!
We went over this already bub. You need the phone number to your community college?
I am saddened by this pathetic attempt to show off your flaming skills. Debating you is the equivalent of picking the wings off of flies, but probably easier.
As I said before, I was more than happy to let this thread die. Now, there have been TWO people who could not understand my comments enough to justify its existence.
Hopefully, there will not be a third.
Now, one more time for you, so that you might better understand.
I was mildly annoyed that I couldn’t get anyone on the line. I didn’t mention this, but not even a single location had an answering machine, let alone voicemail, with a message establishing their hours. I set forth a very mild rant, without hostility toward anyone. At the end, a jesting insult toward the major chains. Then, MaryAnnQ comes in, and starts a fire. I put it out, and then Pig Iron comes in, and tries again. Unfortunately, his skills are poor, and he fights my battle for me in most instances.
I did not intend for this to turn into a war. However, there’s enough people with a grudge to turn anything into a battle, it seems. Even those that appear to be throwing in the towel in mid-post.
So, I’m done with this nonsense. I’ve now got a new friend when it comes to debate, one that I will try to ensure is on the other side, as a double agent of sorts.
If you need me, I’ll be out buying services. On Sunday. Except for a haircut. Anything else, I’ll get as I like.
