Why is Miller allowed to be a moderator?

Seriously, the guy just doesn’t seem able to set personal animus aside when moderating issues involving me in the Pit. His personal hard feelings for me date back to the time I got sick of posts claiming people could only be conservative if they were evil to begin with and posted my take on the human suffering liberalism has been responsible for over the last fifty years. Certainly this is an issue that reasonable men of good faith can disagree about, and prior to that time Miller and I had a fairly amicable relationship here, with him going so far at one point to tell me that I was one of the “good guys.”

In the wake of my liberal-bashing post, however, he decided that since he’s a liberal and I was bashing liberals I had therefore betrayed his friendship, and his disdain for me since seems to have evolved into nothing short of hatred. At any rate, he hasn’t been at all shy about stating his strong dislike for me in the Pit.

Nor does he seem particularly concerned with the need to be honest, claiming as he has (as a poster, not a mod) that I was lying when I talked about complimentary PMs I’ve gotten on occasion. He reiterated this claim even after I pointed out the glaring hole in his accusation, which is that as a moderator he either has access to my PMs or he doesn’t, and that if he did, he would know I was being truthful, and if he didn’t, he had no justification for his assertion that my claim was “bullshit” and that I was lying.

Which brings us now to his behavior as moderator. Some of you may remember when his mod hat instruction to me upon being told I was hijacking a thread was simply “Starving Artist, Shut Up!”

Now we come to the Paterno thread where he has taken to insulting me directly within his mod hat on, knowing full well I can’t retaliate. He placed a side issue I had raised off limits and told me not to say another word about it, then referred to it as my “stupid Hollywood crap” in warning other postets not to bring it up either. Then, in another instance of moderatorly umfairness, he ignored my report when my main opponent in the thread brought it up some time later in an attempt to goad me with it. I reported the offense and absolutely nothing ensued.

Now he’s taken his arrogant willingnesd to abuse his authority to a whole new level. Witness his post in the Joe Paterno thread:

Note the het up insults which I’m forbidden to repond in the thread where they were posted; the utterly dishonest mischaracterizations of my posts, and the implicit threat that one I use a forbidden word in the Pit - an offense which has drawn a “please don’t do this again” response from him every time it has occurred since the Pit rules were changed - I will be banned.

Are these types of insults, lies and threats coming from a moderator really to be allowed on this board? I respectfully ask that Miller be relieved of his duties as moderator because he is clearly unable to keep his personal feelings out of his actions as moderator, or at the very least he be moved to another forum where he is less likely to find me participating ad a poster.

In closing, I apologize for any typos or word omissions as I’m posting from my iPod tonight, and proof-reading and editing is just too time-consuming for this time of night.

I suspect that Miller’s last sentence was intended as humor rather than a threat, the joke being that by Board rules saying a naughty word is somehow worse than “intricate, loving descriptions of child molestation” (as he puts it).

That said, I do also wish that moderators would refrain from insults, snark and other tangential commentary within the bounds of the [Moderating] tags. Even where I agree with the comments (as I do above) it diminishes the authority of the official actions.

Snark outside the tags, but moderate impartially.

Miller’s among the best mods this board has, to the extent that when he called me a prick, I stepped back and took a second look at my behavior to see what was going on. Turns out he had something of a point. Starving Artist, I humbly suggest you do the same.

:shrugs:

Insulting someone from within the safety of the Moderator tags is cowardly, and being a jerk. I wish I could believe something will be done about it.

Regards,
Shodan

He’s not insulting you. You are posting “if he goes from intricate, loving descriptions of child molestation” and frankly, it’s getting creepier and creepier.

I’m pretty sure that calling someone a “skeevy, intellectually dishonest moron” qualifies as an insult in pretty much any context, even if you genuinely also hold it to be a statement of fact.

[Quote=Starving Artist]
I respectfully ask that Miller be relieved of his duties as moderator because he is clearly unable to keep his personal feelings out of his actions as moderator, or at the very least he be moved to another forum where he is less likely to find me participating ad a poster.
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He stated clearly that you are not presently breaking any board rules and that other posters should stop reporting your posts. You should be thanking him.
:smiley:

Miller is awesome and generally correct (except when he disagrees with me, naturally). His mod note was in the Pit, he is, as the saying goes, not a fucking hall monitor, and he didn’t let his personal feelings get in the way of his duties here. After all, he didn’t slap you on the wrist.

[QUOTE=Fenris]
He’s not insulting you. You are posting “if he goes from intricate, loving descriptions of child molestation” and frankly, it’s getting creepier and creepier.

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Well, he did call him a “skeevy, intellectually dishonest moron”. That’d get anyone a warning anywhere else but the Pit. BUT - it was in the Pit. If you don’t want to get called a skeevy, intellectually dishonest moron while in the Pit, you shouldn’t be posting about elaborate man-boy rape situations in the Pit.

I missed that part. You and Munch are correct.

For shame, Miller. You should have posted the exact same thing, except with the “skeevy, intellectually dishonest moron” part outside the mod-box so it reads like this:


[Moderating]
Every time I think Starving Artist has reached the bottom of the barrel, he breaks out a hatchet and chops his way down to new depths.

That said, Starving Artist’s posts are not, as it happens, a violation of the SDMB rules, so it’s not necessary to report any more of his posts in this thread, at least for those reasons. Thanks to all of you for keeping an eye out, and all, but he’s tragically in the clear so far.

However, please let me know if he goes from intricate, loving descriptions of child molestation to something truly heinous, like calling another poster a motherfucker. I’ll be all over that shit.
[/Moderating]

PS: Speaking purely as a board member, Starving Artist is a skeevy, intellectually dishonest moron. As a mod, I’ll note that this is not against the board’s rules.

Otherwise, well done Miller.

Should we expect a new chapter of The Wayward Orphan in this thread as well? I see **Starv **tried to continue the series in the ATMB thread about him that was closed.

I understand what it’s like to have your creativity compromised; I’m just wondering how long this this friggin’ story runs.

Because Miller rules, that’s why.

Duh.

That’s a very sad story. :frowning:

He does demonstrate remarkable stamina and flexibility for a man of his age.

I too think Miller is a good mod.

But SA didn’t get a warning, so what’s the problem? Didn’t like his tone? Duly noted.

Yeah, but you shouldn’t be saying that as a moderator note.

Fenris’ adjusted idea seems better (though i’d say really no kind of emotive language should be used at all, though i’m something of a hardliner on that). I don’t read a threat of banning into it, especially since as SA points out it would hardly be the first time that non-banning has happened. And frankly his description of SA’s posts isn’t too far off the mark; I don’t accuse the guy of anything, they’re just really damn creepy.

Miller is allowed to be a mod because he’s smart, he’s willing to do the job, and he’s good at it.

I agree that I’d prefer that any snark from a mod come outside the [Modding] brackets (or better yet in a seperate post without any Modding at all), but I’d say elbows’s comment of “duly noted” is about all I can muster about the OP.

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Miller appears to be on a bit of a downward trend lately. He was mod-noted in GD for personal insults, he threadshit on the Pit thread about the room mate’s sex change, and this abuse of his mod position to sling insults.

A poster doing that I would advise to step back from the boards for a while to get perspective.

Regards,
Shodan

If Miller had given Starving Artist a warning I might be able to work up some emotion about this because I think mods should keep their emotions out of their smack-downs but it’s just a mod-note. No big whoop.

Sorry your feelings got hurt SA. If you don’t want your feelings to get hurt then don’t play in the pit.