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Indeed. There are a few bars/restaurants in this area that I frequent where people smoke as if they were smoking cigarettes (on their back patios or outdoor areas.) I’ve smoked at both of them. No one even looks twice, staff included.
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People will walk down the street in San Francisco smoking a joint like it’s a cigarette. My Dad was out to visit and we were at some shop in Chinatown, and he turns around and says, “What’s up with this city, that’s the fourth time I’ve smelled pot.”
“Yeah, that’ll happen.”
Five minutes later. “You got any? I haven’t smoked up in years.”
[QUOTE=Apollyon]
At a nice middle-class high school in early 80’s, a friend of mine found that his parents had discovered his stash; and smoked it. 
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I had something similar happen to me when my Mum found me and a friend smoking pot.
Mum: Are you guys smoking pot?
Me: err… 
Friend: Hey yeah… do you want some?
Mum: Ok 
Everyone:
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus]
In a way it’s an unrealistic portrayal of contemporary life that may be intended to suggest a generally worry-free attitude. What AIDS was to free love, employer drug testing has become to the casual use of marijuana. More than anything, that has driven the use of pot completely out of middle class, employed life. That characters in movies can smoke pot and not have to worry about their livelihoods as a result is similar to the way they tend to live in nicer houses and hardly ever have the money worries that actual people do.
I think as a result, IRL, the use of marijuana has pretty much returned to the fringes of society, such as successful performers and artists who need not worry about a job–in fact, rich people generally, on one end, and to the discouraged and criminal classes on the other.
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I don’t know where you’re from or where you live, but this goes completely against my experience. I know many many many middle class pot smokers, with homes and good jobs and cars and all the rest.
Another vote for realism. The vast majority of people who smoke weed don’t get busted (or act stupid). Possession charges arise out of street crime “prevention.”
And it’s not a purpose of art to instill virtue. (IMHO).
I just watched the aptly named “Superbad”. All about some underaged guys trying to score booze and, with the help of the booze, girls. Heck, so many “teen movies” are all about underage drinking - that’s pretty dang illegal.
[QUOTE=control-z]
As to why Hollywood portrays pot smoking so much, it’s because they’re so liberal.
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OK. That solves that one. Now why do they portray booze drinking so much? What political ideology is that? And because I’m a curious sort–what politics are implied by coffee, cigarette and antacid usage in films/TV?
[QUOTE=I Love Me, Vol. I]
OK. That solves that one. Now why do they portray booze drinking so much? What political ideology is that? And because I’m a curious sort–what politics are implied by coffee, cigarette and antacid usage in films/TV?
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It depends on context, but alcohol is used to denote a range of different moods and characterizations. Sipping whiskey from a flask is a time honored trademark for hardboiled tough guys. It can be used to illustrate stress if a character goes to the mini bar for a belt after hearing bad news. It can be used to signify anarchy and fun (many, many party scenes).
The use of coffee and cigarettes, I think, is largely a device to give actors something to do with their hands while engaged in dialogue in static situations.
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Never worked in IT, then, have you?
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Or film, television or radio–at least in the large American markets.
Who the hell are you going to get to do any quality creative-type work if you drug-test? (I don’t mean to say that all “creative-type” workers use drugs, just that A) many of them may do so at least infrequently and B) among the creative types I know who* don’t* use any illegal drugs whatsoever, many of them wouldn’t work at a place that drug-tested anyway because they’re afraid it might be like working for the Westboro Baptist Church or WalMart.
For varying levels of silly and noticeably, but yeah. I guess what I mean is that I get a little silly and act what I’d reckon is noticeably different. Could just be the SSRIs though.
As for the OP, put me in the ‘it’s a good thing’ camp.
[QUOTE=Blalron]
I don’t think it’s as dire as you’re putting it. There are still decent jobs that don’t drug test. “Completely” is a bit of an overstatement on your part.
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Not saying that there aren’t non-testing employers out there, but still the majority do test.
As for its being a criminal activity, and why they show it, and whether they should be allowed to show it, I think another factor is that it’s basically a cultural phenomenon. People may not approve of it, and it is illegal, but surely very few people regard it in the same kind of light as murder, assault, and similar offenses that have been illegal since time immemorial.
Cannabis use certainly is not always portrayed in a positive light. On Six Feet Under Nate always seemed to go a little crazy on the herb.
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
The use of coffee and cigarettes, I think, is largely a device to give actors something to do with their hands while engaged in dialogue in static situations.
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See: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379217/
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Not saying that there aren’t non-testing employers out there, but still the majority do test.
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Anecdotal, not statistics, but…most of the pot smokers I know work for corporations that have drug testing. None of them have ever been tested, but they know there’s a chance. I’m retired now, but I worked under a corporate drug-testing regime for over a decade without a single test. I believe that if corporations really went after all the pot-smoking fiends in their employ, the effects on the US economy would make the current home mortgage/gas price situation look like happy fun time in comparison.
[QUOTE=3acresandatruck]
Anecdotal, not statistics, but…most of the pot smokers I know work for corporations that have drug testing. None of them have ever been tested, but they know there’s a chance. I’m retired now, but I worked under a corporate drug-testing regime for over a decade without a single test. I believe that if corporations really went after all the pot-smoking fiends in their employ, the effects on the US economy would make the current home mortgage/gas price situation look like happy fun time in comparison.
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And yet, it’s *still * illegal. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=3acresandatruck]
I believe that if corporations really went after all the pot-smoking fiends in their employ, the effects on the US economy would make the current home mortgage/gas price situation look like happy fun time in comparison.
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In the employee orientation at my last job, my new supervisor was going through the HR/personnel policies binder and came to a section about drugs and alcohol. She stops reading, looks around at us and says “if we did any testing here, we’d have to fire half the staff. So… just don’t show up to work loaded. Otherwise, we don’t care what you do on your own time. Next policy…”