Why is toilet paper always measured in bizarre non-euclidean formats?

We all have the standard size of the “roll” but the problem is that most manufacturers of toilet paper don’t sell rolls but rather they sell “Double Rolls” or “Mega Rolls” or “Super Mega” but then you look at the rolls side by side and the claimed roll sizes are wildly different.

For example a Scott “Mega Roll” is equal to 4 “normal rolls” and is 462 sheets each while a Charmin Ultra-Soft “Mega Roll” is also equal to 4 “normal rolls” but is 328 sheets instead, but the same brand of Charmin in Ultra Strong “Mega Roll” is actually only 286 sheets, and to wrap it up Cottonelle “Mega Roll” (also equal to 4 “normal rolls”) is 340 sheets per roll.

So basically is just going by overall total square footage really the only actual way to figure out how much toilet paper you’re actually getting?

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Definitely not Cafe Society. I suppose this could be considered a factual question, but the factual answer would be “because they feel like it”. So IMHO it is.

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If a “mega roll” equivalent to 4 “normal rolls” is only around 400 sheets, that would make a “normal roll” a mere hundred? What the heck kind of roll is that? The stuff I buy is a thousand sheets per roll.

Scott brand has always had more paper on a roll. But it’s a harsh paper.
I buy what’s on sale. I like the plushier type better. Quilted Northern is a nice paper.

The measuring of TP is about as reliable as all those labels saying the food item is ‘all natural’ or ‘organic’.
There are few/bad regulations on labelling for consumables. IMO.

They want you to select based on advertising and brand recognition, not on facts on the product.

Why is toilet paper always measured in bizarre non-euclidean formats?

Why Non-Euclidean?

Because Toilet Paper Marketing was invented by Cthulhu and the Old Ones. It’s EVIL.
And those Charmin “Bears”? They’re really Shoggoths, taking that shape to lure you in to your destruction. Did you really think there were Blue Bears?

Note also that your rolls do not occupy the full width of the dispenser in your bathroom.

TP used to be a little wider than now. Over the years, they’ve gradually made the rolls narrower.

Being wrapped around a cylinder, each individual sheet has an inside diameter and an outside diameter. The discrepancy between these causes space-time anomalies.

It can become visible sometimes, when it occurs on a larger scale.

For example, did you ever have a roll of TP where the two (or more) plies got separated and the outer ply unwrapped one more turn off the roll than the inner ply? Then the free ends of the two plies don’t align on the roll, with difference in their end-points becoming quite noticeable. That’s very non-Euclidean.

This furthermore causes the perforations separating the squares to be not aligned, making it tricky to get the inner and outer plies realigned.

It wasn’t an official assignment, but I took it upon myself to fix the TP rolls at work when this problem reared its ugly head.

And yes, we do have two-ply at the office. Of course, each ply is basically see-through such that doubling it doesn’t help that much, but two-ply it is.

To me it is all about sheets per roll. For you wad wipers, it is not important. I measure the sheet. If I have the squirts, I use four squares. Les the finger makes contact through the sheet, and touches the shiit. Undesirable.

Number of plies is crucial also, I once bought a brand called “Just One”. And I thought this would save on sheets. But, the sheets of the Just One brand were actually the size of two normal sheets and was more like sand paper. Also undesirable.

Yes, the toilet paper game is confusing. To win the game I look at how many sheets per roll, because that is my measure as I am a sheet user, not a wad wiper. Then quality enters the game. Ain’t nothin too soft for my bum. And to get accurate data you need to sample the products.

Very confusing. And I do give a sheet. Right now I have settled on a three ply “Luxury” sheet. Yes, it is all about how many sheets per roll. And price never enters the equation. There are some things you cannot put a price on. And taking a good sheet is one of them.

Of course they’re trying to make themselves sound like you’re getting a great value. If Brand X has a regular size and a mega size, then the mega will be better. But Brand X Mega vs. Brand Y Mega, hard to say. At Sam’s, IIRC, they also list a cost per square foot that allows some better comparison among brands. Given the thickness factor perhaps we should look into the cost per cubic foot.

If the roll occupied the entire width it wouldn’t turn easily because the sides of the dispenser would interfere.

Anyway, I think it clear that we need the government to step in here and mandate a standard measurement, the Shitwipe. It should be calculated as:

S x T X P

where S = total number of sheets, prorated to a standard sheet of 10x10cm
T = thickness of each ply, and
P = total plys

Kinda like getting HoTMaiL from HTML…ShiTwiPe. Easy to remember, nice!:cool:

I weighed the three brands I currently have.

Cottenelle Double Roll-74 grams
Charmin Mega(Triple) Roll-147 grams
(Someone is “lying”)
Kirkland (Costco)-200 grams

They all tell you how many square feet you are buying.

@Chingon, that’s what I’m thinking.

My 12-pack of Charmin Ultra Soft “Mega” rolls (“4x size of regular rolls”):

12 Mega rolls
264 sheets/roll 3.92x4 inches/sheet; 2-ply
344 sq ft total in package

28.67 sq ft/roll

It seems the sq ft per roll and the number of plies are the key bits, in terms of “value”.

Also, how many sheets?

If you measure your doses with sheets. Distance between perforations.

Another key part.

Why not just take them to the produce scale, and calculate weight by the pound?

I honestly don’t think the number of square feet is a helpful measure. Nobody uses 3/4 or 7/16 of a sheet of toilet paper. They use toilet paper in full sheet quantities (unless one accidentally rips).

That would explain why they have no nostrils.