You’re just not very good at this baiting, are you?
Anyway, “I can’t” would not have sufficed. I can. “I won’t” is what could have wrote.
Must run.
I probably won’t post again to this thread. It’s not my cup of tea. I wandered in and Lightray’s comment drew my attention, but as a general rule I don’t like Pit threads. (and I have no stake in the basic premise of the OP)
I always enjoy taking the lunch money of those SDMB vanguards who profess their contempt for the positions of others, yet refuse every single offer to make their own case.
My offer still stands:
Things are a little busy, but for the half dozen folks who have responded in the last half hour, I will gladly give you the opportunity to fight some ignorance and show me, and the world wide web, what the bible actually says on this subject.
Let me know.
Yea, Chicago, Illinois, Australia
Can you please answer the question as to if your views/research/etc have changed since the last time?
My mistake. I could swear there is or was a Doper with a very similar name who WAS from Australia, and I honestly thought you were that person. I apologize for that.
To repeat my question: Do you think it’s impossible for someone to have seen and rejected your arguments from reading those threads?
It makes me wonder if you believe that anything can be learned through reading since you appear to be rejecting the entire notion of us learning through someone else’s trial and error.
For you to know that a bullet to the head will kill you, do you have to shoot yourself in the head?
If not, what’s the difference between a bullet to the head and a pointless religion thread? Because from here, they look pretty damned similar.
Are you thinking of TheLoadedDog?
That’s the one! Honestly, I don’t even know TLD’s opinions on homosexuality, so it wasn’t that I was confusing one Doper for another, but one Doper NAME for another…
So what? I didn’t have to be in the ring in '74 to know that Ali beat Foreman. I didn’t have to post in the thread in ‘04 to know that you were entirely unable to defend your position against Diogenes’ arguments.
Oh, you’re absolutely right, there. I’ll certainly read the threads, because its tangenital to my interests, and I’m bored at work. But I’ll leave the heavy lifting to the likes of Dio and Polycarp. I’m lazy that way, and besides, they’re better at it than I am.
The more I think on it, the more I love the attitude that you can’t have an opinion without being part of the process.
Sorry, raindog. You can’t have an opinion about the bible. You weren’t there.
I’d adore it if people who had no knowledge of Roman history would stop comparing eveything to the ‘fall of Rome’. It’s getting old. Call something else a Fall, ok? Start comparing to the fall of Western Civilization to the Great Fall of Leaves or That Time When The Jar Fell Out Of The Cupboard.
Oh, and. In reading over the previous thread, I thought maybe raindog would like to know that someone who does have a PhD-level knowledge of ancient Greek (ie, me) does not think arsenokoitai can be unproblematically translated as ‘homosexuals’. Feel better now?
Must be in Queensland.
Hell, he still hasn’t seen fit to clearly define “Western Civilization” and why he feels homosexuality is causing its collapse as opposed to, say, economic factors.
Thank you for that. If my struggles with the bible, as a believing Christian, have taught me anything, it’s that I have much to learn from others. Second would be that there are many things which are not as clear as we would like them to be in the translations that we have.
Because, obviously, economic factors aren’t going to break into his house in the middle of the night and try to butt-fuck him.
If Life’s a bowl of cherries, this must be the dog shit they fell in,
Woody
Seriously, if Western civ is collapsing due to hedonism & immorality, and if heterosexuals are 96% of the population, it’s kinda hard to blame it on the gays. We’re good, but we’re not that good.
That was actually Lonesome Polecat.
He hasn’t answered my questions either.
Sure he does. I bet. 