This has got to be the most sanitized national tragedy I have ever witnessed. Don’t the TV stations owe it to us to show just what kind of real carnage was perpetrated against this country?
Yuck. I can imagine it quite vividly, what with the press talking about the fact that most of the bodies coming out of the building rubble being “pieces.” Or even without that.
I don’t need to see it on my screen.
I’m sick enough over this.
Bingo…
As if the whole thing isn’t bad enough. You think you are owed the sight of dead bodies? You are not well. I for one am glad they aren’t showing it. Everyone already knows that the bodies exist…we don’t need graphic views of them.
I’m torn on this. Violence isn’t usually a good thing to see, but there are exceptions. Example: I think it’d be irresponsible to let a child (even a somewhat older child) watch a violent, gory horror movie. I would not, however, consider it an inherently bad idea to have them watch something like Braveheart, because it shows them how things are at times.
That’s how I feel about this: such footage would be more Braveheart than Hellraiser. I think they’re playing it safe by not showing it, so I really can’t do anything other than support it. I wouldn’t be outraged if it was shown (with a warning), though.
Reeeder, I kindly invite you to blow me.
Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot that the purpose of TV journalism was to make news events as aesthetically palatable as possible.
I cried twice today when all these events finally hit home.
Every time I see the planes hit those buildings… show it to me. Ram it down my throat. I am asking for blatant propaganda. In a country of wealth it is always easy to distance one’s self from tragedy if one isn’t directly involved in it. MAKE me involved.
Americans can be complacent in many things our government does. People in general are willing to forget many things over time. I do not want this to be the case. I want to see people crying. I want to see the destruction. I want to continue to feel the sadness, and feel the rage.
I am motivated now, and I would love to think I could stay motivated even without a media blitzkrieg. But Eris knows I never cared about Vietnam until I visited the memorial in DC…
Media: bring it on. I’ll be watching.
Goodbye.
If you want to see dead, mutilated bodes, I suggest you go to Rotten.com to satisfy your apparent necrophilia fetish. Journalists have no responsibility to show intestines draped across debris, or so how a man’s head was forced through his own stomach. If you are sitting at home, watching video tape of the WTC collapsing, and thinking, “Oh boy, I gets ta see me some dead people! Hurf hurf!”, then I suggest that you go lie down, take a nap, and carefully examine your life up 'til this point.
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BingoBurringo said:
Bingo, I kindly invite you to follow the rules of this forum and refrain from making such statements.
If I were you, I’d listen. Because next time, I won’t be inviting, nor will I be kind.
David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator
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The Spanish language channels were actually showing the people jumping from the buildings at heights from which they could not have possibly survived. We were spared that on the other networks, and thank God, because the thought of watching that is too much to bear.
—Kitty (who shows up to post every few weeks when she gets a chance)
Um, I don’t know which “other networks” you were watching, but I saw falling people on both CBS and NBC.
I don’t know…I was watching CNN and ABC. I didn’t see any of that on there, so I assumed they weren’t showing it at all. Sowwie.
The only reason they’re not showing us any gore is because he lost the 2000 Presidential election. And then only because of the way the electoral college w–
What?
you know, there’s a spirited debate going one about this in the medianews website by newspaperboys over whether a newspaper should have ran a picture of a man falling to death. right now it looks like it’s running 2/1 against.
What kind of hat is it? Backward baseball cap?
If you would, Bingo, please provide your reasons why the media should be covering our TVs and papers with blood. Why do they “owe” anything to us?
Thanks.
I DON’T BELIEVE WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY
Or at least I’m not sure if I do. But in the interests of this discussion, I’ll offer an argument under which the gore is a good thing.
I don’t want closure. I don’t want “healing” and grief counselors and coming to terms with our losses.
I want rage. I want enough white-hot rage to stir a fat-assed overfed oversexed overcounseled overmedicated undereducated country out of its indolence long enough to do the hard and shitty work of hunting down every terrorist bastard on the planet.
I want those images in every adults mind so that when we hear CNN loudly announcing collateral civilian casualties our forces inflict in their response, nobody even thinks about any response except “tough shit, bucko.”
A year, two years from now, fine, we’ll all take therapy together. But emotions fade, and if we don’t have an out-and-out hatred now, in six months all we’ll have is a lingering distaste. And that won’t get the job done. And it’ll happen again.
Show it after the kids are in bed. Run a disclaimer for the weak of stomach. But show it, Goddamnit, so we never forget.
:shrug:
What I want is not always what is best.
And I will never forget, regardless of how much splatter the media show.
Obviously, YMMV.
Are you kidding me?
Okay, if you REALLY want images of people falling out of buildings, I saw some in the photo gallery at http://www.latimes.com. There were roughly 3, I believe. Sorry, I won’t provide a clickable link for you, you’ll have to type it in all by yourself.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that David B’s mod hat is Carmen Miranda Chiquita banana fruit-laden chapeau.
Actually, there was at least one man who jumped from around the 80th/90th floor and survived with only a broken leg.
In just about every video of the second tower collapse, if you look really carefully just underneath the level of smoke, you can see several people jump.
Imagine… the choice between a thousand-foot fall, or being engulfed in a raging inferno… ::shudders::
That’s amazing. Did he land on a car or awning or something to break his fall?