No, definitely multiple witnesses. The disciples were with Jesus, there’s Jairus, and there’s the mourners surrounding the girl.
False dichotomy. The substance of a myth can be true without the literal details being historically factual.
No-there is only evidence that one person told the tale about all those other people being there. If I tell you that I swam the from San Francisco to Guam and that 500 people watched me do it, have I presented you with 500 witnesses?
Do you believe that Norse sagas and the Gospels fall within the same genre of literature?
I’m no expert, but I believe I’m safe in saying that that would be an extreme minority position among scholars, as in, a minority of Babale.
I would ask you to produce some of them.
There’s multiple witnesses to Thor’s smashing of the ice giants with his hammer, too. And they recorded this tale in multiple languages in different parts of the world! Meanwhile three middle easterner Romans all wrote about Jesus? Suspicious. What if they were all in cahoots?
The substance of a myth consists of that parts of the myth that have historical background…and I notice that you have directly refused to answer yet another question. Do you believe that the Biblical tale of Adam and Eve actually happened, or not?
Bob, Jane, Pascale, David, David, David(I knew a lot of Davids back then), Mary Jane and a slew of others. How many do you need me to name for there to be a sufficient number of witnesses?
Edited to add: BTW, do you even know the name of the person who told the tale that you accept as evidence in the Bible?
God created Adam, right? So God is responsible for everything Adam can do… and now God is punishing us all because one of his creations did exactly what it was created to do. If Adam was not supposed to do what he did, then this all-powerful God of yours isn’t all-powerful. If God didn’t want Adam to defy him, why did he create Adam with the ability to defy him?
I’ll put it another way: can your all-powerful god make mistakes?
Yes, there is exactly as much evidence for a historical Jesus as there is for a historical Thor – ie, none. Note that we wouldn’t expect much historical evidence of Jesus even if he did exist as a mundane preacher, because it was a very long time ago, and to the people writing stuff down (ie the Romans) he wasn’t particularly important.
There is even less evidence that Jesus was the son of God or had any mystical powers. Much like how there is no evidence of a god named Thor with a magic hammer.
I don’t have enough information to definitively believe one way or the other about the historical accuracy of the Adam & Eve story.
I didn’t say name them, I said produce them.
The evidence for Adam and Eve consists of people writing about them in the bible.
The evidence for Jesus consists of peoplle writing about him in the bible.
Maybe because humans existing is better than humans not existing? How should I know?
Why do we humans have children when we know that they are free to defy us, embarass us, shame us, even make our lives miserable?
Aaaannndddd…this is where I stop taking your arguments seriously.
I don’t take issue with your beliefs, by the way. I take issue with you pretending that your beliefs are in any way based on evidence, or are more valid than anyone else’s belief. If you want to worship Jesus on your own, good for you. Don’t bother anyone else, and especially don’t prostelyze.
Fine, prove me wrong. Provide some evidence of a historical Jesus please. In other words, put your money where your mouth is.
I don’t consider what I’m doing “proselytizing”; but even if it is, I am free to do so in this forum.
And there we have it: You demand the type of evidence that you yourself cannot/will not produce. Produce the witnesses of that miracle you believe happened or, at the very least, produce the person who originally told that story.
If you ask me to produce the name of the person who told my tale, I can do it easily.
Your turn.
If God isn’t a sadistic asshole to you, then you either haven’t read the bible or you’re suffering from a combination of Stockholm Syndrome and Battered Spouse Syndrome. “Oh, I know he beats me sometimes but really it’s my own fault for making him mad.”
Now, if you want to believe that God is all peace and love and rainbows and unicorns, that’s up to you. But such a world view is not remotely compatible with the God that is described in the bible. He is constantly setting up scenarios where he bloody well knows what the outcome will be and then getting pissed when it turns out exactly as he knew it would. He is constantly punishing the wrong people, punishing children for the actions of their ancestors and punishing citizens for the actions of their kings. I am glad he’s a fictional character.
I don’t know where you got your so-called “basic definition of God”, but it certainly didn’t come from the bible.
Santa Claus puts coal in your stocking if you misbehave. Jehovah wants to torture you for billions of years for thought crimes. Three Kings