I’m the OP, but not a fanboy. I’m posting this through my Starlink connection. I have two internet connections right now. Both sat dishes. The Starlink gives me 35ms ping. The old one that I keep as a back up is 650ms ping.
For those that aren’t familiar with ‘ping’. the bigger the number, the worse it is.
Ironically, Musk didn’t name his electric car the Edison 
What are you pinging?
If I ping google, I get a range from 22 ms to 35, on cable.
Actually, out of curiosity, what does a tracert look like? Wondering if it goes through multiple satellites, and if the tracert sends that info back.
I use the ookla site speed test. Just got 32ms. No cable available here. Or DSL, fiber etc.
Appears to bounce around a bit. 6 hops with tracert to 8.8.8.8
Tracing route to dns.google [8.8.8.8]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms StarlinkRouter.lan [192.168.1.1]
2 27 ms 28 ms 30 ms 136.22.93.33
3 46 ms 29 ms 30 ms 136.22.254.94
4 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms 108.170.252.193
5 41 ms 45 ms 37 ms 142.251.61.181
6 38 ms 46 ms 44 ms dns.google [8.8.8.8]
Trace complete.
That’s a legitimate complaint (although kind of contradicted in this very thread, where plenty of positive statements have been made about some aspects of those companies without provoking accusations of fanboyism etc.).
ISTM that the root of the problem is that so many people seem to think that if there are positive things that can be said about Space X, Starlink, or Tesla, then Elon Musk’s personal assholery and ethical missteps just don’t matter. And that anybody who criticizes him for them is just “wanting to hate” him, or jealous or misinformed or “pathetic” etc. etc.
No. As I said, it is perfectly feasible and appropriate to acknowledge some significant contributions that Musk’s companies have made while not giving Musk himself a pass on his personal assholery and ethical missteps.
Are we reading the same thread?
OP here. I never had heard anything about his personal assholery and ethical missteps. But, I guess I’m learning.
In all fairness, I think Elon Musk explains a lot about why he acts the way he does on his SNL monologue:
The “pedo guy” story is Musk lashing out (and later apologizing to) Unsworth because Unsworth went on CNN and shitted on Musk’s engineers’ attempt at solving a problem that, at the time, was a big “how are we going to get these kids out of this flooded cave” crisis. So the divers later put the kids under anethesia w/ oxygen masks on and drug them out and Musk’s tech solution wasn’t needed.
What I won’t defend if Musk hiring a shady PI to investigate Unsworth after the “pedo guy” tweet. This PI reported he married a 12 year old girl in Thailand but apparently he was full of shit. I guess a British guy can regularly visit an area in Thailand known for pedo vacationing and find a wife and not actually be a pedo, but I don’t exactly blame someone for thinking the worst.
Most people can handle criticism without calling the critic a pedophile.
If by “wasn’t needed” you mean “would never have worked”, that is.
Aside from the fact that “Aspergers” isn’t a valid diagnosis in the DSM anymore, having an ASD diagnosis is not an excuse to act like an immature frat boy.
This is an interesting shift: we start with Musk being a technical savant whose engineering prowess is at the center of his ventures’ success and who is at the forefront of his companies’ idea generation work; but when we get to this ridiculous and nonsensical boondoggle of a cave-rescue submarine that was properly condemned and mocked by anyone with more than two brain cells, it’s not Musk’s solution, it’s “Musk’s engineers’ attempt” at a solution. Curious.
On a side note, the National Geographic documentary on the cave rescue is really excellent and fascinating. It’s one the best documentaries I’ve seen.
The Rescue (2021) - Trailer
There’s no mention of Musk at all. 
For shits and giggles:
Would you climb into a submarine engineered by Musk (‘s people)? The first prototype, built in a rush?
Musk hired a PI after what he twattered, couldn’t find shit and now you want to defend your Hero with implying that it was a valid assumption regardless? Wow.
How much money did your guy send to help?
His announcement to “help” gave him a ton of free publicity- did he send more or less than 0,001% of your most pessimistic valuation of that publicity?
Would it be fair to call it “cynical” or “narcissistic” to profit in such a fashion of the misery of others?
How much money did he send to Ukrainian refugees? Or is he profiting from other’s misery for free publicity?
If he was not so obviously manipulating crypto with his “social” media presence, you might think all of this a little callous. As it is, it is straight up evil.
It had ‘full self-diving’.
Someone who is responsible for raising capital and promoting his company is obviously not neurologically incapable of acting in a socially acceptable manner. Assuming his ASD diagnosis is correct (I think someone earlier said it was a self-diagnosis), he’s not an asshole because of ASD, he’s a guy with ASD who chooses to be an asshole. Using his ASD as a shield against criticism is just another example of being an asshole and is insulting to the great many people on the spectrum who suffer from some social awkwardness and confusion but nevertheless are legitimately kind and good people.
Oh, Goddammit, this is funny! I’d like to see Musk get into the film business, so he can face off with the Reigning Coolest 14-year-old Edgelord.
Who is saying Musk is a “technical savant whose engineering prowess is at the center of his ventures’ success and who is at the forefront of his companies’ idea generation work” or anything like that?
Regardless, the sentence I wrote makes complete sense. Musk sees this as his engineers attempting to solve a crisis with a tech solution (at his direction) and some dude gets on CNN and tells him to shove his submarine up his ass, that it wouldn’t work. So Musk defends and goes a little overboard.
I understand the condemnation of Musk’s tweets regarding this. What I don’t get is the hate for him & SpaceX attempting to solve a crisis that was, at the time, portrayed as a problem without a solution. Nobody was shitting on them at the time, but after the kids were rescued and SpaceX’s solution wasn’t used it suddenly became a joke and now something to call Musk an asshole about for some reason.
BTW, all you guys that are shitting on Musk’s solution to the trapped kids, read this SDMB thread as this crisis was unfolding. A lot of posters had similar ideas to get the kids out. This wasn’t a hare-brained solution and I don’t know why it’s so hard to believe Musk would have genuinely altruistic intentions about saving these kids.
To steal your phrasing from the post above, who is saying Elon Musk didn’t “have genuinely altruistic intentions about saving these kids.”?
I’m sure there are, but it’s not really relevant to whether or not Elon Musk is a self-aggrandizing asshole. You know why we don’t accept it as “going a little overboard” when Elon Musk calls someone a pedo for having the gall to criticize him? It’s because he’s a multi-billionaire with the capability and willingness to hire a detective to dig for proof. You don’t get point for altruism when you do that.