Are those things food options somewhere?
Intentionally? I don’t think so. A friend of mine stole some corn from a farmers field. It was corn being grown to be dried for animal feed. Think the worst ear of corn you’ve ever had, and make it a bit worse.
I thought it was pretty clear from my last response.
Are you trying to imply that me just clarifying “Sweetcorn?” was dumb? Because I already said that I was 99% sure he was referring to sweetcorn, but in a thread about weird things to put on pizza, and in the context specifically of other countries than the US, there’s potential ambiguity there, so I was just briefly double-checking.
In answer to the question though, if you google the definition of “corn”, it tells you that in British English, the term is ambiguous:
Previously I said “anglosphere”, maybe it’s only a British thing, or maybe other parts of the English-speaking world use the british meaning? I don’t know.
Regarding maize, there are many forms of maize that are consumed. Hominy, ugali, cornmeal (which appears is used in some US pizzas), the aforementioned popcorn and others. It was worth the one-word confirmation check, even if I was thoroughly expecting the response “yeah, sweetcorn”.
No. My questions are not sarcastic. They are sincere and genuine. I was wondering if you were wondering whether corn on a pizza could be something other than sweet corn, and whether those other possibilities are actually eaten anywhere.
Sure, that’s fair enough. I just wanted to ascertain what the actual range of doubt was. I should imagine that someone meaning those other things would say “hominy,” etc., and not just “corn.”
One of my high school teachers was an aid worker or missionary or something in Czechoslovakia after WWII and told us about how unfamiliar Europeans were with corn for human consumption. Much of the food aid from the United States was canned corn, and the Americans were bemused by the way hungry Czechs would utilize it, like putting it between two slices of bread. No surprise that it ended up as part of other weird (to Americans) combinations like on pizza.
Interestingly, in South Africa, “sweetcorn” means specifically the creamed canned kind. The non-creamed canned kind would be “kernel corn”
Polenta, kačamak, lots of other regional corn porridges, all been around for centuries. Or did he mean specifically whole-kernel corn?
I haven’t ever seen corn on pizza in the U.S. Though I’m pretty sure I have seen pizza with a cornmeal crust (probably taco pizza).
Yeah, like what comes in a can. Apparently, that looked like pig feed to them.
To me it’s just the foreignness of the thing - a sugary tart tropical fruit on a cheesy, doughy Italian food? It seems too outlandish to even think about.
I never once tried it growing up, because we didn’t have a ton of money to waste experimenting with a food that’s prima facie an unholy abomination. Same with anchovies, though as an adult I can be persuaded to explore the darker corners of salty deli-type food.
And yet, anchovies are a canonical pizza topping.
Not for us. Anchovies were the canonical item of “this must be on the menu just for shock value.”
It might be a class thing; maybe we found those things exotic because we were untutored and unsophisticated. Which I still am, at least as far as pineapple pizza goes. It’s just unimaginable to me.
Anchovies and pineapple both seem like standard toppings to me, they’re just toppings that some people like to joke about disliking, but they’re pretty standard on menus.
Corn, now that is a bizarre topping that I don’t think I have ever seen. Someone asking for corn on pizza would definitely get a big WTF from me and I strongly doubt most (any?) pizza places would even have corn!
I wonder if it’s not so much the combination of savory and sweet ingredients as much as the combination of Italian and non-Italian ingredients that puts people off. Pepperoni, mozzarella, tomatoes, sausage, olives, even anchovies, are mainstays of Italian cuisine. Pineapple is not.
If you get pizza in Japan, corn is standard, and it’s not uncommon to see a sunny-side-up egg on top. Though odd, it was not bad. But it did not scratch my pizza itch very much.
If you travel in Japan, be advised to relax your expectations about non-Japanese ethnic cuisine (except for Chinese and fast food).
There exists corn which isn’t sweet, and people eat it. For example elote and esquites. Believe it or not a lot of tortillas and tamales are made from non sweet corn.
Naw, anchovies are common in Italy, in the ancestral versions of pizza. Or so I understand. That’s why I think they are canonical.
They aren’t common on menus near me, though. They were more common when I was young, and when pizza was more closely ties to Italian neighborhoods.
To me (US, west coast) it’s not at all unusual for any pizza crust to have a little cornmeal-like substance on the bottom. Not sure why it’s there, but it commonly is.
It’s there to keep the crust from sticking to the pan. And it’s pretty common, in my experience. I assumed a “cornmeal crust” meant something else. Although if it does, I’ve never seen one.
I thought that might be why, but wasn’t sure. Thanks!
There are a lot of recipes out there for Chicago deep dish that include some cornmeal in the crust, but the deep dish pizzerias here generally do not use cornmeal.
And, yes, cornmeal or semolina is sometimes sprinkled is sometimes sprinkled on the peel to help the pizza slide off more easily when it’s being put in the oven.