The article is full of errors. Perhaps lies. The Morocco has no travel ban on the Liberians.
It draws on this and gets many things wrong.
I have merged two similar threads on travel restrictions due to Ebola.
Colibri
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Because we’re not blithering idiots?
It is because our media are not the fear factory they are in the US. And we’re not collectively gearing up for a midterm-election and every politician has to say something about this.
Ebola is a very nasty disease, but malaria/flu/the common cold is still a bigger killer. Worry about the driver behind you.
Travel restrictions wil not make 1 (one) American safer while condemning the affected region.
Really! :eek: They stamp mine. Again, and again, and again. You have to clear immigration upon exit at the airport. Stamping on entry or exit not required for cruise ship passengers, which comprise the overwhelming majority of our visitors.
But overall, agreed that often the stamps aren’t easily legible. Tracking point of origin if travel is not booked as one ticket could proven to be too cumbersome. And since passport stamps are not organized in any particular way, it could take a long time to sort the recent stamps from those long ago.
Funny how you criticize us Ugly Americans and then wrap it up with an overreach like this …
Any travel restriction would in fact make some people safer…though not worth the effort relative to travel restriction done properly.
Not always. Even the U.S. doesn’t always entry-stamp, especially at land border crossings. Some countries don’t entry-stamp their own nationals.
There are many cases of countries that do not border-stamp with friendly adjacent countries. But that is not the case in Africa. It is certainly not the case with respect to people flying from one continent to another. It would be exceedingly difficult for a person anywhere in Africa to enter a country on another continent without carrying a passport that would reveal the traveler’s having been through immigration checkpoints in Africa.
It would be possible for a person to sneak across the border from, say, Guinea into Mali, but any motorable road or public bus would subject one to a diligent passport inspection. African countries are very aware of people illegally crossing borders, and all of them are as fussy about it as Americans are about incoming Mexicans.
Furthermore. even if you could sneak from Guinea into Mali, and then fly from there through Paris to New York, that Mali stamp in your passport from a week ago would certainly be plainly visible to anyone inspecting your documents upon arrival. How hard would it be to circulate a memo to immigration officers to watch for that?
Incidentally, putting ebola into perspective, the number of deaths in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea so far is 5,000, out of a population of over 20-million, which is one out of 4,000. In the USA, the average nunber of deaths in any flu season in the 1990s was 36,000 per year, which is one out of 8,000 every year, or one out of 800 for the decade. Yet, flu vaccine is available in the USA and more than half the population doesn’t even bother to get it.
Sometimes.
Travelling in Europe (before the EU), a couple of times they didn’t bother stamping my passport when we crossed borders. It was like, ‘Oh, U.S. passport. You’re OK.’ The Israeli guy sitting on the train with us got more scrutiny and stamps. I’ve never had my passport stamped going in and out of Canada, except one time I asked them to.
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I’ve seen plenty of Mexicans who weren’t stamped at land crossings into the U.S. It’s actually a huge pain in the neck when trying to prove that someone did, in fact, enter the U.S. legally (especially when entering with a border crossing card). Yes, even recently.
I admit I have never crossed from one country to another in Africa and don’t know jack about the mechanics of that. But as far as the U.S., I have quite a bit of professional (and some personal) experience with immigration procedures. You can circulate all kinds of memos, but that doesn’t mean the border inspectors will read them or implement them properly. At work we routinely have problems with immigration officials not understanding or knowing about policies that have been in place for a decade or more.
Flu doesn’t have nearly the mortality rate of ebola, even among those sectors of the population most susceptible to flu complications. And flu is much more easily treated.
Eva Luna, Immigration Paralegal
Europe doesn’t have a general election in three weeks?
Because it would cause far, far, far more harm than good, because …
The only effective way to fight this threat is to defeat it at the source. If we do not do that, then it continues to expand exponentially. As it does, other countries will get infected, and we’d have to ban travel to yet more countries. Eventually, we’d have to ban all travel. Meanwhile, plenty of people would sneak past the ban, and we’d have a far bigger problem here in the US than if we’d simply expended every effort to treat the real problem: the outbreak in Africa.
It would make specific people (who we’d have a hard time determining) while dramatically increasing the risk for everyone.
A travel ban would be about as effective as burying our heads in the sand. It would be an apparent short-term fix, with disastrous consequences.
Let’s focus on fixing the problem, not merely trying to protect our own asses and failing to do that.
Of course, as a recent post on Facebook said, all the Ebola cases in the US have been people trying to help other people, so Republicans should be at little risk. 
I heard a new joke about Ebola.
You probably won’t get it.
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Does anybody understand the meaning of the word “quaantine”? It means to isolate a person with a communicable disease, so as to reduce the risk of spreading it through the general population. Once you decide that a quarantine is appropriate, you simply do whatever is appropriate in order to make the quarantine effective. If it works, potentially, to prevent people from an infected population from mingling with an unaffective population, well, that’s what you do.
When I was in Mopti, Mali, the city was quarantined overnight for cholera. Nobody was allowed to pass through military checkpoints on all roads in and out of the city, all flights were canceled in and out of the airport, and riverboats were denied landing access. I don’t know when the quarantine was lifted, but after three days, people who had valid cholera vaccination certificates were allowed to walk out through the checkpoints.
That’s how quarantines work.
We understand how quarantines work.
Do you understand how porous borders, lax enforcement, and forged documents work?
That works well in other countries not the US where people fear the army and propaganda Americans cannot be authority state.
And Africa works with bribery and corruption.Will not work in Africa where there is bribery and corruption with the police ,government and people.
Only way is for the US army to go to Africa and quarantine people and patrol the airport and borders.
How hard do you think it’d be for a foreigner to have left Mopti during the quarantine?
Morality and legality aside, if you think the US has the capacity effectively to seal the land and sea borders of an area of 420,000 square kilometres with a population of 20,000,000, you are deluded. They can’t even secure their own border with Mexico.
If the US army cannot seal the land and sea borders of unarmed people the US is doom in war if China sends million navy seals to do target attacks of key infrastructure of power station ,shipping ports ,power lines ,gas stations ,gas lines ,airports ,bridges so on in a million crude semi stealth boats.And once in the US cities in small groups no more 20 fighting city war far of groups would be very hard.
This had already been explained, and I wasn’t disagreeing. I signaled this agreement by saying “Well, OK then” in the post previous to yours, I case that wasn’t clear.