Yes, I did. I apologize.
Isn’t that what a grand jury is?
Since this was not his first offense selling unlicensed cigarettes, it would have been a Class E felony, not a misdemeanor. In any event, the choke (which may or may not have been prohibited) wasn’t applied because he was selling cigarettes, it was applied because he resisted arrest.
I am large. I contain multitudes. 
Actually, you’re clearly wrong there.
If the cops are federal officers and it’s a white rancher some anti-tax whacko it’s definitely the fault of the cops.
Yes, and what I - and others - are saying is that, in this case, this is unfortunate.
It matters because you are arguing I (and presumably others) have no right to comment.
There is exactly zero evidence this is true.
… and it would be better for all concerned if it was a different case that had done that. Such as one of the other two cases mentioned.
How about you stop with the ad homs, and start with making arguments based on facts and evidence rather than your presumptions about the posters who oppose your points?
Probably too much to ask, I know.
Before I start, I’ve been a police officer in a major American city for 10 years…
You have a man who doesn’t want to go to jail…what do you expect the police to do? Wait? Come back later? What? Please tell me. You’re the cop, the guy is getting arrested and says “Bite me, I ain’t going to jail!” Now what?
I, for one, would have been pleased as punch if Bundy and his racist, un-American, borderline-treasonous whackadoodle fellow travelers had gotten the exact same kind of treatment that people seem to think all black suspects automatically get.
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Clearly inform the person he or she is under arrest and why they are being arrested.
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If they still say “Bite me, I ain’t going to jail!” use appropriate force to subdue them.
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“Appropriate force” in this case means appropriate under the circumstances - taking into account the dangers to the officers involved, to the public, and to the suspect; using methods of force approved by the professional standards of the police in that jurusdiction.
Have you considered the possibility that black suspects and perpetrators might be more likely to get such treatment than white suspects and perpetrators for the same crimes? If you have, does this possibility bother you?
Except it wasn’t a prohibited choke hold.
Garner died because he refused to be arrested - again. Garner was fed up with being arrested for repeatedly violating the law. How dare these police officers arrest people for violating the laws of Staten Island.
Garner was very familiar with police proceedures if only from a habitual criminals viewpoint.
If true, then yes. People who commit crimes should be punished as the law provides for regardless of their skin color. I would be strongly disappointed if a white person were given more leniency than a black person on the basis of race.
No, a grand jury has a very different role to play in the process than the District Attorney does. A grand jury makes a decision based on the evidence presented to it, the concerns lie with the people presenting the evidence: do they have a conflict of interest, given how closely they work with the police on the vast majority of cases, in which the accused isn’t a police officer? Are they deliberately or subconsciously doing a substandard job pursuing indictments?
Don’t know quite how to break this to you, perhaps you should sit down…
Every* fucking* day. Day in, day out, twenty-four, seven, three sixty five…
Ok, so appropriate force, meaning what? baton strikes? Punch him in the face? A taser? And what if the guy still dies? Do you understand how difficult it is to subdue someone? Let alone someone the size of Eric Garner…
There is a place to air your grievances with the cops…it’s called a courtroom…not the street
Hopefully, this case will put an end to the antiquated broken windows theory of policing in NYC that put these cops in the situation to be enforcing petty tax violations and ultimately leading to Eric garner’s death…to die over something as petty as loose cigarettes…shame on the NYPD
Yes, I know. Brown’s death didn’t sufficiently knock the socks off you. We get it. There wasn’t a high res tape showing him executed in cold blood. 'Tis a pity. And he wasn’t a little boy scout. Thus, you and others think it was “misfortunate” so much ado was made over him and not a more pitiable, more recognizable victim.
And I’m saying this attitude is problematic on multiple levels. Bad cops flourish when the public thinks like this, as it allows them to abuse anyone that isn’t a choir boy and not catch any flak for it. It also assumes your view of Brown is the correct one, as opposed to a biased one. Many of the protestors think Brown is a recognizable victim. Just as recognizable as Garner, Rice, or anyone else.
There’s no valid reason to call these protests “misfortunate” when they’ve done a lot to change public awareness about police brutality.
I haven’t used any, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Well, it’s not quite the same, but there was the case of the white homeless guy beaten to death by cops where moments before a Mexican American cop is heard saying to the white guy “See these fists! They are about to fuck you up!”
I can’t remember if Smapti was in that thread defending the cop or not but I suspect he was doing his usual Schtick.
Is there any law against killing a citizen? One who poses no threat?
Then you must spend your life either in a state of deep disappointment or blissful unawareness:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
Brown out ran his sandals. Does that count? After a physical confrontation between Brown and Wilson, Brown ran away, turned, and advanced towards Wilson. Brown now presented a threat to Wilson. Wilson ended the threat.