Everytime I come across a post stating that the poster want to vote for that man I just can’t believe my eyes.
I really would like to become informed how this is possible. Why on earth would anyone have such a president for an other term.
Salaam. A
Because some people simply believe that his policies were overall correct. It is really that simple.
Just to piss you off.
I suspect those who still support Bush suffer from True Believer Syndrome:
I support him because he’s done a great job of handling the economy and the war with the Jihadis.
If the question is sincere and you really want to know why people support him then I’d recommend that you go to Instapundit or BelmontClub and follow the links for a few days and I’m sure you’ll understand. You may not agree but if you truly want to understand you will. It’s really not that complicated.
Perhaps it’s as simple as having made a decision that given the options, Bush is choice which most closely aligns with their beliefs and desires for a president.
Aldebaran, given that you don’t live in the U.S., have admittedly not been to the U.S. in quite a while (if at all, forgive me for not remembering your entire CV) and could not possibly be as informed about the nuances of American politics as those of us who actually live here, why do you think that you have standing to question Americans on their political decisions in such an arrogant and condescending manner?
I can see that if Kerry, with whom I share a lot views on issues, had screwed up as bad as Bush, I still might vote for him. To me, issues are nearly all-important. It would take a lot for me to not vote for the candidate that shares my views, over the one the shares nearly none of them. The worst that can happen, really, is that I vote for neither. I would never, for example, vote for a social conservative, no matter what the other guys does.
It seems reasonable to assume that people who share Bush’s views also wouldn’t care so much over recent scandals or whatever.
Aldebaran is specifically the type of person I do not like.
He can’t look at any opinions other than his own with anything other than condescension. Unfortunately here in America that is becoming more and more the case on both sides of the aisle and it is polarizing American society.
Even as probably the most far right wing person on this forum (at least that I have seen) I can point to Democratic policies/politicians who I agree with and that I would vote for.
The real question, Aldebaran, is why wouldn’t someone give their vote to President Bush? He’s lowered taxes for every American, something we all need during the slow economy. And even that is recovering, thanks to Bush’s tax cuts and other economic programs. Kerry’s campaign pisses all over any good news; we get hundreds of thousands of good jobs thanks to President Bush, and Kerry says we still have work to do?! The economy is recovering, and only Bush recognizes this and is responsible for it.
Of course, all the economic success we have here in America isn’t worth it if our nation isn’t secure. And Bush has done great things for America’s security! Under Bush, the new Department of Homeland Security was created, airport security was transferred from shady private organizations to its rightful place as a federal law enforcement program, billions have been allocated to fund first responders, and our nation is safer and more secure as a result. Bush has also taken the fight against terror to the homes of terrorists, demolishing the al-Qaeda-harboring Taliban regime, freeing millions living in fear of the Taliban’s wicked rule. He rebuilt Afghanistan into a nation far better than it ever was before, a prime example of how American democracy can work for the world. He then took the fight to Iraq, ending the hellish reign of Saddam Hussein and liberating millions of Iraqis. And unlike many liberals and pessimists like John Kerry, Bush is willing to stay the course and not be deterred by terrorists attacks. The goal of actions like Berg’s beheading is to damage our resolve, but Bush’s committment to ensuring peace and prosperity in Iraq is unwavering.
Bush is also committed to giving each and every child the education he never had. He’s giving more money to schools to ensure student’s success, and the No Child Left Behind act ensures that we will not continue the Democratic tradition of only allowing “successful” students advance in our society.
The President is a very religious man, something too many of our leaders are afraid to be. He’s not afraid to take common-sense religious positions, like his faith based initiatives and marriage amendment. Senator Kerry is anti-religion to the core; he even disagrees with the core tenets of the Catholic faith, yet continues the sham of “worshipping” every Sunday. Bush is also consistent in his views, unlike “flip-flop” Kerry, who can’t even decide if he owns an SUV!
Unfortunately, far too many Americans have been swayed by recent setbacks in Iraq. But in the end, only through Bush’s leadership will we stay the course in Iraq and at home, and create a safer, freer world for everyone.
Disclaimer: I’m not a Bush man, but I am playing one in this post…
TeaElle,
I was in the US last month. (I’m rather frequently in the US, by the way.)
May I ask you: Who do you think you are to answer my honest question in such a blatant condescending manner?
Salaam. A
To the other members:
I shall come back to this tomorrow. Thank you for the replies so far.
Salaam.A
I still see it yet to be proven that a government that cuts taxes is able to pull a country out of recession. Though you are right, this whole “tax cuts are always good” mentality is why a lot of people support Bush.
I don’t exactly want to be around in 4-6 years when the high-spending-low-tax policy stops purring like a kitty and bites our heads off. It is just plain stupid economics, ESPECIALLY in a time when you are dumping hundreds of billions of dollars into foreign wars.
My theory is that as soon as the polling stations report in, massive tax hikes are announced (though, of course, not as much for the rich).
Right, and it was Clinton’s economic genius that led to the skyrocketting market values when he was president. Please. That’s like spitting in the ocean and hoping to change the tides. Welcome to economics! Market goes up, market crashes, market corrects, jackass who wins the presidential lotto takes all the credit. I haven’t seen one halfway smart economic move by the Bush OR Clinton administration yet.
Next thing you know, Bush is going to say, “Hey, let’s give all the rich people $50 million! They will invest it, and everyone else will magically get 50 million!” to crowds of cheering morons whose foresight extends only to the amount of time they can cash their checks.
Enjoy that $300, hope you have a good retirement plan, have a nice day!
Not that I speak on behalf of TeaElle, but condescending questions deserve condescending answers.
Not all economists think that boom and bust cycles are natural.
Among other reasons, because Bush stands for something while Kerry has no clue what he believes.
Revtim sums up my reasoning. As much as I dislike the way that Bush has handled certain things, I don’t think that voting in favor of someone who’s overall philosophy is contrary to my own makes a whole lot of sense. And I imagine many democrats would react similarly if the situation were reversed.
It’s a two party system, and since Bush is more sympathetic to my views than Kerry is, I’ll vote for Bush. It’s a fairly straightforward decision.
Why will I give GW Bush my vote? Because it’s him or Kerry, and I believe that he has been, and will be, a far better president than Kerry ever could be.
Not all economists are smart, either O_o For the record, I don’t think they are natural. By nature, they are manmade, and are subject to influences of the actions of mankind. However, I would give more credit to Greenspan than Bush for nudging the economy along. I just wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that cutting taxes did much for the economy, any more than Clinton did anything to boost the economy when he was president. THe point is, the economy then and now was driven by non-government forces - namely, a rush of investment capital, the collapse of the bubble economy, and is followed by it evening out. Hell, we saw this happen several times, from car companies to airlines. There was a time when there were hundreds of automobile companies in the country, and people invested crazily in them. After much badness happening to most of them, there are five left. It is rather common when new technology is introduced, and we shouldn’t be acting surprised now. But we are. And we think cutting taxes will solve all our problems. Like I said, I hope I live in Canada in a few years, because BOY is that going to hurt.
I don’t know Aldebaran at all, but in a generic sense, I think that it may flow from the overall world view. Rightists believe that if you’re smart enough to earn it, you’re smart enough to spend it. Leftists disagree. Whenever I mention vouchers to leftists they point out that ghetto parents are too dumb to choose the right schools for their kids.
I think it’s logical that people who believe in individual rights have more respect for the individual, and vice versa.
Having said that, no doubt we have our share of overly critical posters on our side, but I think it’s a much lower share.
Says a lot about hte people you hang out with O_o