Wifi enabled products that do or don't need to be wifi enabled

My gas hob also doesn’t need electricity. It does have a safety cut off - the gas cuts out from an open burner if it isn’t lit within a certain time frame - not sure if that’s an electrical feature, I’ve never questioned it. And it’s only 2 years old.

I’m moving house soon to a place with no gas so will have to survive with an induction hob. Pray for me.

I googled a bit and I see no evidence of this anywhere in the US. I could certainly have missed something but I find it hard to believe that major brand manufacturers would make special cooktops for regional use when California doesn’t require it. You may not be able to start the oven, I’m not going to try, but the burners can be started with a match or a mechanical starter.

I have certainly encountered the “won’t light without electricity” gas ovens in the wild. I also have had decades of experience with the ones that will light with a match. Other than actual experience, I got nuthin’ except being told by a landlord once it was a safety feature.

A moot point at present, as my current kitchen has an electric stove.

Ok but you said that they couldn’t be purchased at all where you live which was what surprised me.

Yeah, last couple times I was looking at stoves in a store I was told the “light with a match” aren’t available. I didn’t think to question the person who told me that extensively, but maybe I will next time.

My lil’ brother just spent $420 (Coincidence?) on a Puffco Peak Pro. It has Bluetooth. Of course?

I’m a software developer. I’m not categorically opposed to “smart devices” but I’m certainly skeptical of them. So far, the only one I’ve actually bought and kept is a device that floats in the swimming pool and sends me messages when I need to add chlorine, acid or alkali. And it has its own mobile data so it doesn’t connect to my wifi. I figure if a hacker wants to know the pH of my pool they’re welcome to it.

what does it mean to have “it’s own mobile data?” It uses cell towers? Bluetooth?

I’m curious about that too. And the device sounds intresting. Mind sharing make and model?

It uses something called Sigfox which seems to be basically a cell network designed for IoT devices.

The product is called PoolSense.

My CPAP machine reports in via cell, somehow - I never had to connect it to our wi-fi, nor to Bluetooth.

Since my dealings with the sleep clinic have been via telemedicine for the past 4 years, this is really convenient - I don’t have to remember to take a data card with me.

To set up my connected air filter, I had to first connect to it via Bluetooth (while sitting right next to it), then use the related app to set up the actual wi-fi. Much more convenient than needing to input network info via some kind of on-screen device as we had to do with the printer and the Roku.

When I got my current CPAP about five years ago there was something in the setup info about being able to install an app on my phone which would allow me to monitor my usage. Since I already have a program on my desktop computer which can read its SIM card and keep a full record of a bunch of statistics (most of which I don’t even understand anyway) I never bothered installing the app or trying to hook the CPAP up to my wifi.

However, when I saw my neurologist last September I found out that he has full access to my usage records. Not only that, but when the sleep study I did last month indicated that my pressure needed to be increased from 13 to 17, he was able to reprogram my CPAP from his office, which was good because I wasn’t sure if I knew how to do it myself.

Yeah - I assume that the DME provider set something up when mine was ordered; I’m pretty sure I never did anything with it, and I know I did not when it had to be swapped out due to a malfunction.

I DID set up the phone app, since I don’t have a card reader. It’s a pain because a) it does not have all the data the doctor’s office shows, and b) it does NOT remember my login info from one day to another - so every time I look (which is not all that often), I have to look the ID and password.

They did tweak my settings remotely at least once. I did get into the on-device menus once to tweak stuff (post-COVID; I couldn’t tolerate my usual pressure so I lowered it for a while); they don’t make that intuitive, for fairly good reasons.

The question is, are the newer stoves set up so that you CANNOT get them to run without electricity (as in, the gas flow cannot even be enabled), or just that they all come with electronic ignition so that you should, in theory, never NEED to do so?

It’s been 20+ years since we had a gas stove. It had electronic ignition and we never needed to try it without power, but I’m pretty sure the gas flow would have gone if we’d turned the knob.

An interlock (that means it needs power to open the gas flow) does make sense as a safety feature - too easy to have gas flowing, then one spark and BOOM, no more house.

No. I believe that Broomstick’s salesperson was mistaken or didn’t explain things well. On mine, which is a several month old high end GE Cafe, the gas still flows but you have to light it with a match, which I did for the first time yesterday when the rains knocked the power out. My biggest issue was finding a matchbook.

That’s kind of what I was thinking. I’d be shocked if any stove sold today REQUIRED a match to light it (aside from a power out situation).

But I also would not be surprised if some had that kind of interlock I described.

I couldn’t find anything from a quick web search. It would certainly be possible to rig such a thing but sold as standard makes no sense.

You may be shocked at how much you like it.

We had gas at our last house. When we moved here (21 years ago), we had a ceramic-coil electric cooktop - the sort that are nearly impossible to find anymore, now (everyone prefers the smoothtop sort). I really missed gas, and was surprised that the place didn’t have that, as gas stoves are popular around here, some neighbors have them, and our house has a gas furnace.

When the ceramic coil cooktop finally died, I bought an induction cooktop - and I love it. Saves energy, heats things FAST, easy to clean. The only downside is that, of course, you need induction-capable cookware. Most of ours already was; I think we replaced one pot (mid-sized stockpot; 35 bucks at Costco handled that problem).