Wii and Xbox 360 bitchslap the PS3 again; what's next for Sony?

Huhwha?

Are you actually making the claim that the RRoD problem is more common than not, the 360 controller is uncomfortable and that the 360 has a more limited library than the PS3?

Because those three things all fly in the face of conventional public opinion.

As Hostile Dialect says, it’s called a kora. Diabate is a griot, a kind of West African bard. If you liked that, check out Baaba Maal too (you can listen to a whole track at that link, and there was this collaboration with Taj Mahal that I really love).

I’m going to stop now before I go way over the top. :slight_smile:

If you’re having this much discomfort playing the Wii, you’re doing it wrong. The wiimote+nunchuck combo is extremely comfortable, just rest each on the respective thigh, much more comfortable than controllers that force a centric position. Also, it is optional to play all spastic like they do in the commercials. :slight_smile:

The only times I would consistently stand up is playing the Tiger Woods golf games.

RROD failure rates on the 360 are estimated between 10% and 40%. Even if you take the low end of the range, that is clearly unacceptable and closer to Russian Roulette territory than competant technology territory. Add in the “scratched disk” problems, and you have an unstable machine that you almost expect to screw up at one point.

And controller comfort is an individual preference - I don’t think it you can tell someone they are wrong about that.

I never said the RRoD rates weren’t high, they are, and unacceptably so. But some people act like a RRoD is a certainty when buying a 360, which is crap.

And there’s no such thing as a “scratched disk” problem. The scratched disk problem happens when someone picks up their 360 as they’re playing a game. Who does that? Consumer advocate reporters looking for viewership, that’s who.

As for the controller, I was just shocked, as I think the 360 controller is the most comfortable controller ever. The PlayStation pad is just too small for my hands.

Actually, that’s not always true, and it infuriates me to no end that this myth is so common that both gamers and Microsoft will accuse people of lying about moving their 360s. I had my Xbox gouge a ring into two separate copies of GTA4 earlier this year, and, rather than have some armchair psychic at a call-center pretend I’m a fraud because the system just randomly had a fuckup while loading, I ended up hoping my system would RROD just so I could get it replaced.

It hasn’t yet, but it still hangs on loading sometimes, and I’m on edge when playing games that stream as quickly as GTA.

I honestly had no idea that could happen. You’re the fast person I’ve ever heard mention the scratched disc problem without also mentioning that the console was moved in some way while the disc was in there.

Yeah - it’s apparently shrinkingly unlikely, and it’s easy to blame factors like heavy subwoofers (I have none) to even undetectable tremors for the possible movement of a 360 during operation, but then we start entertaining the absurd. Still, I count myself lucky that a couple of freak occurrences happened to some replaceable games rather than that I had to lose my console for a few weeks. :eek:

In case anyone’s interested, the November sales numbers are in:

Games

  1. Gears of War 2 (Xbox 360) - 1,560,000
  2. Call of Duty: World at War (Xbox 360) - 1,410,000
  3. Wii Play (Wii) - 796,000
  4. Wii Fit (Wii) - 697,000
  5. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 637,000
  6. Call of Duty: World at War (PS3) - 597,000
  7. Guitar Hero World Tour (Wii) - 475,000
  8. Left 4 Dead (Xbox 360) - 410,000
  9. Resistance 2 (PS3) - 385,000
  10. Wii Music (Wii) - 297,000

Console Sales Numbers

  1. Wii - 2,400,000
  2. Nintendo DS - 1,570,000
  3. Xbox 360 - 836,000
  4. PSP - 421,000
  5. PlayStation 3 - 378,000
  6. PlayStation 2 - 206,000

According to Sony’s press release, 3.5 million PS3 games were sold in November. A lilttle quick and dirty math show that that total was matched on the Xbox 360 with GoW2, CoD: WaW and L4D alone. The Wii almost matched it with just Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii, GH World Tour and Wii Music.

What region is that?

North America.

Holy crap! 2.4 million Wiis sold in Novmber? That’s crazy. And Nintendo actually makes money on their console (unlike Sony and Microsfot)

Yeah, I’m not getting the Wii fascination. It sounds so gimmicky to me. And as I predicted, everyone of my friends who bought one is now either storing it in a closet somewhere or their 4 year olds are playing with it.

It has no appeal to me as a gamer, where as I can clearly see the appeal with the xbox/ps3.

This is a problem quite common to gamers. You simply are not the market the Wii is intended for. The traditional systems, xbox/ps, hold no fascination for me. No matter the game, it simply is no fun to play using those clunky controllers. That puts me out of the gamer market and squarely in the Wii market. Mario kart is worth the price alone. The game has its faults, but being able to drive using a wheel makes it fun to pick up over and over again.

Neither is better or worse, just different intended audiences.

What I found weird when discussing the PS3’s fortunes a year ago was how quick people were to toss aside everything we know about how game systems sell. Systems that are popular out the gate stay popular and floundering systems don’t have their fortunes reversed by a single game or a handful of games.

Yet for, like, a year, you had all kinds of people saying that if we just wait for Heavenly Sword/Uncharted/Metal Gear Solid 4/Little Big Planet/Final Fantasy XIII to come out, then the Wii “fad” will die out and the PS3 will pick up steam.

In theory that sounds nice, but it doesn’t have anything to do with how system cycles actually work.

The PS3 is the Gamecube of this generation, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not a nifty little system with a nice library. I’d definitely own one if I could even come close to affording it.

Like Nintendo, I’m guessing that the next Sony console will be a small leap in power over the PS3 and much cheaper.

For what it’s worth, I bought a used copy of Call of Duty 4 the day after it was released.

I’ve had my Xbox for about 2 years now. It’s still my first one.

My Xbox 360 is 2 and half years and it’s also my first one. Although it’s doing some weird shit (when I press the power button once it gives me a black screen, if I turn it off and turn it on again, it’s fine) and I’m worried how much longer it’ll last.

I honestly believe the stories where people say they’ve gone through 12 360s (and it’s always 12) are making it up.

I have a buddy that’s gone through 12 or 13 now. At that point, it’s not the console. It’s him doing something to the console, which is odd, because he babies it almost as badly as I baby mine. He’s a smoker, though.