http://conservativebyte.com/2013/05/obama-administration-its-actually-closer-to-us-being-idiots/
this administration is so TOAST - so HISTORY
An anonymous official said something. Wow. It’s easy to have perfect knowledge after the fact.
Fortunately, I like both toast AND history. Hooray for the administration!
True. He’s done all the damage himself. Republicans should learn to not stop someone when they are destroying themselves.
Does this comment make any sense to anyone? Anyone?
Let me do the math for you: came to office with the nation behind him, a 65% approval rating. Been mired around 45-49 ever since he tried to pass health care.
So all your support for making Bhengazi into a scandal in this thread is and an example of what, exactly?
It is a scandal. People were left behind and we need a full accounting of why that happened. We also need to know why the administration wasn’t straight with the public from the start about what happened when they knew what had happened almost immediately.
When talking points get changed from accurate to misleading, that’s a problem.
Hmmm. So actually, it is against the current newthink ( that US soldiers should not be sent into situations where they could die ) to continue with operations in Afghanistan, where they don’t have the necessary intel, and continue to be killed?
Strangely, I thought being a soldier meant accepting that you might be maimed or killed while doing your job.
Never stopped the top brass sending thousands of Americans to die unnecessarily in botched operations during every war they have been in.
We also need to know what the president was doing while the attack was on. So far we don’t know, unlike when the Bin Laden raid was on.
If he just had a good night’s sleep and went to a fundraising the next day, that would seem more than a little wrong.
Maybe. A problem. But you are trying to inflate a Japanese condom into the Hindenburg.
Exactly. The whole concept of not sending troops in unless you have good intel was made up on the spot. And no one can find a single example of that ever being done.
“Help!” “Oh, we’d like to, but we need more intel first. Just hold out 8 hours or so and then we’ll come and help.”
You might have gotten that impression, but I actually agree that it’s not a huge scandal. But it is something that has to be accounted for, and even a partisan inquisition can get to the truth.
Besides, you should prefer a partisan inquisition. It builds up sympathy for the President. If the GOP were playing their cards right, they’d be much more dangerous.
So you think that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, General Dempsey and General Ham were all lying when they said otherwise?
Nobody expects a partisan inquisition.
And if a frog’s asshole weren’t water-proof, he might need the occasional enema. The problem isn’t smarts with the GOP, they got money, they can hire smart. Their problem is that the inmates have taken over the asylum, and smart isn’t much good when you’re nuts.
Where is “Bhengazi”? Is it anywhere near “Bhagdad”?
Sort of. I think it’s more a combination of post-hoc excuse making and Defense’s unwillingness to pull State’s chestnuts out of the fire. As I said before, if it had been a military unit under attack, the response would have been instant. Instead, State and the CIA screwed up, called for help, and I suspect Defense was going, “WTF?”
It could even be that they didn’t have even the basic intelligence they needed because State wouldn’t share anything with them, which could have caused the military guys to drag their feet.
And of course I also want to know if Obama’s orders were actually related to anyone down the chain. Or did Panetta simply disregard those orders?
Obama is not a fool. He has no medical training, he will not attempt to perform an appendectomy. He has no military experience, he does not give direct tactical orders, that is left to the men who have such experience. If he says “I want to rescue them” and his officers say “We can’t”, he is not going to say “Do it anyway!”.
Where you getting this stuff from, anyway?
Past Presidents have actually directly ordered military actions that their advisors said were, er, inadvisable. The Doolittle raid, for example.
Not saying it’s a good idea for a President to do that, but that’s not really the issue here. If someone told the PResident, “We can’t”, we should know that. If the President was merely ignored, we should know that too.