The case is pretty easy to make as induction:
(1) Nearly two hundred persons sentenced to death, and having exhausted their ordinary direct and collateral appeals, have subsequently been exonerated by DNA testing.
(2) Other persons, convicted with similar evidence, have not had available evidence containing DNA preserved and able to be tested.
(3) Some of those people have been executed.
The problem is that apparently the IV tissued and hence the bolus of potassium never reached the heart but dispersed into the tissues around the groin leading to a much more moderate rise in potassium blood levels that tends to cause VT not VF.
So much minimising.
Let’s be accurate, please. 144 acquittals in the modern era, and DNA evidence was used in 18 of them.
I agree, though, that it is statistically likely that a few innocent persons have been executed.
Which ones?
Regards,
Shodan
There are a few probables here. Unfortunately,
Isn’t that what the law requires? By the way, what’s it called when someone puts another person to death in a manner contrary to law?
It’s obviously not about the steak, but the steak does rather highlight the contempt with which the State treats prisoners in their care. $15 is a joke.
This guy was under the care of the State, and they should at least care for him with a modicum of professionalism and decency. Not for his sake, but for their own, and ours.
The innocent ones.
Can you list them? That would surely clear things up. The idea that some innocent people have been killed is possible, maybe even likely, but not certain. That’s the issue. People on my side are claiming certainty where none exists. I wish they would stop because they are not helping the argument.
Did you check out the link in post #405?
Well, there’s the poor guy in Texas who not only was convicted of some murders he didn’t commit , but of murderers that didn’t happen.
If you choose to read about Willingham (who definitely seems to have been a victim of a gross miscarriage of justice to put it mildly), this article about him and his case from The New Yorker (free) is absolutely sensational.
Can you quote the part was he was exonerated? The article is certainly compelling, but I’d like to see the court documents reversing the guy.s guilty verdict.
Are dead people ever exonerated by courts?
Yes.. And in Texas, to boot! Technically not by the courts, but by the executive branch. I’ll accept that evidence, too.
I have. That’s a great article and quite chilling.
It’s one thing to find out about someone executed for a crime he didn’t commit, it’s quite another to hear about someone executed for a crime that didn’t actually happen.
Interesting:
“Family of Oklahoma inmate killed in botched execution may sue state”
Why is it a joke?
Because a limit like that is just set to appease the haters. It used to be a gesture to the condemned- one last good meal and a cigarette. The punitive state needs to prove to its punitive voters that it can be petty and nasty as well as just killing people.
I regularly get a steak dinner for $10 with baked potato, rolls, and salad. I guess I’m not eating up to the budget standards set for convicted killers. Who knew. But that was his choice to ignore the guidelines. Just like it was his choice to cut his wrists. Just like his choice to struggle and get tased. It’s most likely a result of him struggling that the needle insertion didn’t go well.
And I’ll just point again to your choice of words for people you disagree with. They’re now haters.
Maybe the violent criminals in my country will wise up and take their show on the road to a theater near you.