I’m thinking about the close ties between them and the influence that Israel and the jews have with USA.
I’m talking about money support, political support, weapons and Nukes. (and perhaps religious support)
The Israeli/jewish lobby AIPAC seams to be very strong in USA and their power seams to have grown the last decade.
I have a feeling that Israel are going to give USA more trouble in close future than it is able to handle.
This close ties are also creating more and more problems for the relations between USA and Western-Europe.
Is it possible that Israel, with it’s influence in the US, will drag America into disaster in near future ?
I still don’t undertand this attitude that Israel is a microsecond away from pushing the button and a sneeze in their direction invites a panicked nuclear response.
If for no other reason, the Americans like Israel because it’s the only functioning democracy in the Middle East (along with Turkey, arguably), and thus more stable and reliable than any of its neighbors.
It’s grand that Havel.2002 (that’s quite the apocalyptic username you’ve got there, by the way), on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, can give us the unique perspective that AIPAC and “the jews” are the key threat facing America.
One thing you may not have considered, is that if the U.S. follows your wishes and abandons Israel, all those Jews living there might have to emigrate. And some of them could wind up living in your neighborhood.
The perception that Americans support Israel because of paid lobbyists’ activities, reflects more of a paranoid cartoon vision than it does reality.
Popular support of Israel has continued to be strong in the U.S.
A Chicago Sun-Times/American Enterprise Institute poll taken after the 9/11 attacks, for example, found the following:
“…the national poll found almost 62% of Americans agreed now that terrorists have hit America, pressing Israel to surrender territory and divide Jerusalem would only incite more attacks by rewarding those who support terrorism. Only 9.7% said they thought pressure on Israel would end terrorism and 28.8% had no opinion. Continued strong U.S. support for Israel drew support from 72.9% of those questioned. Significantly, 62.8% said they thought the terrorist attacks on the U.S. would have occurred regardless of American support of Israel.”
And there’s no evidence any of those people polled were getting money from AIPAC.
Which government are we having trouble with over this? Which Western European government, I mean?
Oh, I suppose we have lost some fans among the neo-fascists, a few random immigrants from the more primitive parts of the world, and some unapologetic ex-communists from Eastern Europe. But then, we never had many friends in that set anyway.
Which government are we having trouble with over this?
Oh, horrors! You mean the anti-semites might not like us? I was hoping to have them over for tea.
If ‘Europe’ has a problem with the fact that I personally support a small democratic country in a sea of dictatorships, with a population of people who are mostly honestly trying to do the right thing, then ‘Europe’ can kiss my ass.
Mistakes were made in the way Israel was created. Or at least, a no-win situation was created. But remember why that country was created in the first place: Because the Jews were being slaughtered by Europeans and others, and needed their own homeland. It was an honorable goal. And the state of Israel has remained free and Democratic in spite of being attacked both by countries and terrorists almost constantly for over 50 years. That it has remained this free and decent is a testimony to the essential goodness of the Israeli people. I hope the U.S. could live up to that standard after 50 years of a continual war on terror.
You might want to read up on the history of the Israeli nuclear weapons program. Israel actually received crucial assistance (in the form of a nuclear reactor and fuel) from France, not the United States. The Iraqi Osirak reactor bombed by the Israelis in 1981 was also French-built. So I don’t think Western Europeans are in any position to cast stones at the U.S. over the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
