Will Ralph Nader run for president in 2008? Will it matter?

He’s 74 now. Gosh time flies.

Well if there was any impact what would it be?

Would people look at Nader and McCain, both products of a time before me (and I’m bumping up to 50 soon) and see the reasons to “turn the page”?

Would he be mirror image thorn in Obama’s side to Huckabee’s in McCain’s, restraining the play to the middle, making Obama to tread a line between throwing bones to the Left and going after the Obamacans and independent centrists?

Too big of an if. He’ll be ignored widely by all.

It’s not an accident; Nader has knowingly dedicated himself to hurting the Democratic candidate in Presidential elections. In 2000, the Green Party said its realistic goal was to get 5% of the national vote and qualify for federal election funding. In the final days of the campaign, strategists said that they should focus on Blue states like New York and Massachusetts, where voters would feel secure in voting for Nader because Gore had a strong lead, and in liberal areas of Red states like Austin, Texas, where voters would feel their vote against Bush was mostly symbolic anyway. By concentrating on these areas, the Green Party would maximize the votes it would receive.

But Nader himself vetoed this plan. He insisted they concentrate on states like Florida, New Hampshire, and New Mexico where Bush and Gore were virtually tied, despite the fact that he would have a harder time getting votes in these areas. But he’d have an easier time swinging the state from Gore to Bush. So he managed to screw both the Democrats and his own Green Party.

So the only question is whether Nader was doing this on his own initiaitve or whether he had made an agreement with the Republican Party in exchange for getting their support in his campaign.

Nader says, as he always has, that the Republican and Democratic parties are both useless. I believe he is partly correct about that.

I won’t be voting for Nader, but I will honor ol’ Ralph by voting against the Republicans.

Nader is the one who is useless. Or to be accurate, has outlived his usefulness.

What a maroon! [/Bugs Bunny]

I think you’re right. I think people learned their lesson from past election results. I don’t think Nader will get much support this time around…

He is a spoiler though… a spoiler with a giant ego who doesn’t know when to give it up.

I think democrats are really pumped up this election. They are coming out in record-breaking numbers to vote in the primaries… this is big time.

I really think the democrats will have the presidency in november. Too much has happened that traumatized them in the past 8 years…

Those who think Nader is going to be important in some way this time around need to put down the bong. Politically Nader is a near octogenarian sideshow at this point, and the people that voted for him on the last go 'round have (mostly) learned their lesson. His political impact on the Dem and the Pub candidates will be completely and utterly irrelevant. Both Obama an McCain are radical candidates in their own way. Nader has no dancing room.
The only thing he really wants is face time for his opinions, and this is by far the cheapest and easiest way to get it.

I remember his 4% or whatever being reported in the 1984 primaries because it was pretty much the only news on the Republican side, and the networks apparently felt they had to at least mention them after reporting on the Democratic primaries.

Does he get to pay himself a salary from his campaign fund? :dubious:

I don’t understand why anyone would even think about spending the money a presidential campaign must cost when they have no chance of winning. Its not only a waste of votes thatcould have gone to a viable candidate, its a waste of cash that could be better used.

Besides, if Nader was serious, wouldn’t it have had more sense to have started earlier to build up support?

He’s 74. Whether voters will take him seriously or not, there’s a good chance he’ll keel over by November.

(Not that I’d like to see that happen, of course.)

He does not need the money . He invested very well. GM spent a fortune trying to find a motive for his actions. They just could not accept some people want to make the world a better place.

Yes, like by ensuring George Bush’s election. :smiley:

I don’t believe Bush can run again.

I believe he was referring to the last time Nader decided to try to “make the world a better place.” How did that work out for you, btw?

Yes indeed, I WAS referring to his previous efforts to ensure a Republican victory.

Say, George Sr can still run! :stuck_out_tongue:

Bloomberg is out.